Hey Peter, I think it's good to use reference for as long as possible, because it teaches us quite a bit if we really look at it and study it. For example, the first image. It is telling us that the scapula is moving closer to the spine, causing a pinch and bulging the muscles up in that area. In your drawing, you didn't include the left arm moving back causing the bunching. You will notice, you have the scapula the same distance to the spine as the other one. I did a quick sketch that I hope helps you see what I mean :)

Nice! - In the middle drawing, I feel like we're lacking some mass in the shoulders. Before adding the anatomical details, make sure that the major forms are in place.

I've watched and studied the shoulders video a few times, and imo you're on the right track with your studies. I think it's good to try the study yourself, then watch Stan's version and copy it. Shoulder anatomy studies can feel torturous due to the wide range of motion of the shoulder and the variety of muscles that come into play. I believer you'll see progress if you keep up analytical studies like these. Might take 20 or 30 times before it sinks in, but 🤷🏼‍♂️

These look nice. I would go through and do the skelly ones on your own now. That way you can compare against what you learned.

im not an expert but it looks like in the third one the infraspinatus, teres major, and teres minor are tensing, so maybe trying to show that abit more would help. Also I think you could make the shoulder blade on the left be pulled further back

The deltoids and the latissimus dorsi here are just a bonus, so if you haven't watched the lessons about these muscles, you just need to focus on the shoulder muscles for the time being. The deltoids and the latissimus dorsi won't affect the form of the shoulder muscles in any way. The shoulder muscles are the ones that affect the shape of the muscles above them, so it would just be a distraction to learn about other muscles. Again, the deltoids are not affected by the pectoralis major in any way, so there shouldn't be any need to know about the delts in order to practice the pecs. It wouldn't be practical to rush things and try to include all the information of these muscles in one video anyway. If you want to know more about other muscles, you are free to watch the next lessons and come back again. I don't know why there should be a restructuring, when the muscles are divided into small and coherent lessons, as it is now. Personally, I think that this course is made with the idea of not thinking about the small parts of the picture, and start thinking of the picture as a whole first ( starting with big shapes and then adding details). In that regard, it's only natural to focus on individual muscle groups one at a time before proceeding to learn about the next muscle group ( the overal composition of the human body being the big picture and the muscle groups being the details).

Yeah I think you got it. Everything looks great!

Really nice! - In image 4, the left shoulder, I would have the infraspinatus overlap the terer major - You often draw the humerus too long and thin, and the head of humerus should be larger and closer to the surface (see if you can feel it on yourself). You'll learn more about the humerus in the future, but it might be useful to take a peek on the arm bones lesson. - The teres major attaches at the front, medialy, on the humerus, in image 5 and 6, you have it attaching a little too far back Hope this helps :)

Great job!

Great job!

strong work!

I see your ? mark in the first image. Stan says in the video that this one is tricky with the pose and thinks that the latissimus muscle would actually be covering the serratus muscle due to the position of the shoulder pulled forward. This is a challenging assignment and your drawings look great!

These shapes look good. I think they could use a little more volume. The large dark lines cutting up the serratus don't really show the form turning. Some softer shading would help with that.

I think it looks great!