Spine Assignment Example 7-10 - Trace Models

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Spine Assignment Example 7-10 - Trace Models

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Stan Prokopenko
In this video I will show you the proper way to practice drawing the spine by tracing over a picture of a model.
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Roger Monroe
Hi everyone! These are my attempts before and after watching the examples. I think in my first attempts, the spine is too skinny and flimsy. And I tend to make the rib cage too large. The sacrum is really challenging. Any criticism is appreciated!!
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irahc
Here are my assignments for this section of the Spine Anatomy lesson. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
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shadow
Hello there  I was hoping I could get some feedback and critique on my studies. Also I'm very sorry about the messy lines. Thanks!
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João Bogo
Hi, Shadow First, let me say that you don't need to apologize for bad lines. Beginner artists have this weird mentality that they should be perfect from the start. So they apologize for bad drawings, apologize for mistakes, apologize for bad lines...but guess, what? If you're doing these things for the first time you're expected to make this mistakes, you're supposed to make bad drawings, bad lines etc. Nobody is amazing when they start and if you put a lot of pressure on yourself to be you end up afraid of trying and burnout. So give yourself credit for trying this exercise and submitting it for critique. Trust me, just doing this puts you way above most of people. And if you get called out on your lines, that ok. Most artist don't critique you to put you down. They point this so you can work on that and improve. Bottom line, don't put too much pressure on yourself. If you not sure what you do, ask for help.It's ok. So on to your exercise. Your lines are a issue. But I don't really know if that's a problem you're having because you're new to digital or if it's something that happens when you're using pencil and paper too. I tried to look for your other exercises but the images were too small and I couldn't arrive at a conclusion. In both cases I advise you using more your elbow and shoulder to draw instead of your pulse. Before drawing, everyday, practice drawing ovals and long lines using your whole arm. In time you'll get more confident. Apart for the lines I feel that your drawings lack structure. the spine is twisting in weird ways and everything feels mushy. Try reviewing the movement and form of each section of the spine and try repeating this exercise with boxes instead of the the rib, pelvis and head. pay attention to where they're pointing and their sizes in relation to each other. also practice drawing cylinders and bent cylinders (remember long lines). The important thing in this section is to learn the simplified form and movement of the spine. Simplifying the other parts is ok, since later you're going to learn more about them. For now boxes are good enough. You can always try this exercise again after you study later sections. Keep drawing and Best Regards
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irahc
Heres my work for the first two images. The leftmost drawing is my first attempt, by myself. The middle drawing is done while looking at Stan's answers. The rightmost drawing is my last attempt done by myself again. How did i do?
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João Bogo
Hey, irahc I'd say it's a pretty successful attempt. I liked how you developed your own way correcting and checking your answers and them tried again fixing your mistakes. This is a very effective way of practicing. Writing your mistakes and conclusions along with the drawing can help too since it brings your attention to what you're constantly getting it wrong and bring your mind to consciously correct the problems. There's a few things you can improve.You can clean your lines further. Check the alignment of the rib cage (I noticed you start fixing it but they are not fully aligned yet. There's a few anatomical errors in the sacrum but I think you'll understand it better after you watch the Pelvis lesson. Best Regards.
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Kalin Gamble
In this demo tracing, is there a reason why the spine is drawn lower than where it actually appears on the model?
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João Bogo
Yes. What you're pointing at and what we can see on the surface are actually the spinous processes (the "spikes" of the spine). The cylindrical form of the spine is deeper in the body. Best Regards
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Kalin Gamble
Here are my tracings. I drew these before watching the assignment examples Stan drew since I plan to go back and redraw them along with the video to see how off my judgements were. I think I drew the ribcages a bit too large & placed them too high.
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Kalin Gamble
Here are the tracings I did following Proko's examples. Comparing this version to my first version, I can see that I need to: 1. slow down 2. work more on establishing perspective & 3D volume 3. work on my ellipses and the direction of the ellipses showing the spine segments
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Second part of spine assignments. (left/up = my attempts right/down = stan's correction). Feedback appreciated.
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CHARLES DEIGHAN
Here's the second part of my Spine Assignment. Comments welcomed.
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CHARLES DEIGHAN
My attempt is on the left and I followed along with Stan on the right.
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Sita Rabeling
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John Masterton
Trying to find the shapes inside the form can be quite challenging. I struggle to see how they relate to each other.
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Jesper Axelsson
Hi @John Masterton, I think you're doing a good job! Yes it is a challange! But it becomes easier the more anatomy you learn; learning to draw the ribcage helped me a lot in finding the thoracic portion of the spine for example
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miguel pineda
Looking good!
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robis
in the last pose it is difficult to imagine the position of the skeleton below the skin. some help
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Tui
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Here are mine. I found this study pretty tough. Feedback is appreciated! ^^
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João Bogo
Hey, Claire. Nice effort. There's something that I think you should definitely work more. Seeing these assignments and your older ones, I feel that you're struggling with perspective and making the forms solid. Part of it is because your lines shows a lot of hesitation, part because you're misinterpreting the image and pointing the volumes in the wrong way and part is because you're not yet familiar with the volumes of the rib cage and the pelvis. The solutions involves a lot of work, but it's something that every artist do. For o more confident hand do a few exercises before you start drawing. Drawing ovals is a good way as it is drawing long lines. if you're new to digital or you never practiced these drawing exercises, it take a little time to get used to the physics of the tablet and really draw in a more natural way. So don't get discouraged. For improve your knowledge of perspective...well draw a lot of boxes. You want to have an intuitive knowledge on how boxes move on space and how their lines converge. It's the basis of representing a 3-d world in a 2-d surface. You can even repeat this exercise but insted of using rib cage, pelvis and head you use three boxes. Finally, review the lesson on Landmarks as they often provide valuable clues of the underlying anatomy: https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/landmarks-of-the-human-body/assignments And Watch (or review) the lesson on the pelvis and the rib cage. It will help you know these form better and position them in space. The 3-d models are a valuable resource, be sure to check them out! https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/anatomy-of-the-pelvis/assignments https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/anatomy-of-the-rib-cage/assignments One final tip. You're posting your assignments in the comments section or in the demos. On the main lesson that's an "assignment" tab. If you post there you're going to that instead of the traditional post button there'll be "Request for critique". That'll will tag your post as "asked for help" and it will automatically let others know that you want feedback. Since that's fewer people doing the anatomy course there's even fewer critiquing so you want to maximize your chances of getting noticed. Keep drawing and best regards.
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Rick B
Here are 7-10. I am digging this, although I had to draw a couple of the images 2 and 3 times before I got a decent image that looked like the home work.
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Zach Dunbar
Does anyone have any pointers on #9? I'm struggling with the hips.
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Rick B
I had to draw it 3 times before I got a decent image
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mameko
Chanon‘s pose is very challenging
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Rick B
yes, it is. I am having some issues with the Pelvic shape.
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Jason Winter
#proko. Here are my attempts. Included are my attempts done before seeing Stans tutorials, and my copies of Stans drawings. I must say...my attempts were rather...er...spineless compared to his.
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Wil Stark
any critique would be much appreciated! also some great examples from other students below re: shading and color to make the assignment clearer -- excited to incorporate in future lessons!
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Jon Passig
Thanks in advance for critique. Will go back in a couple days before I'm done with the section to re-attempt with critique feedback and reviewing Stan's examples.
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João Bogo
The main issue that I see in your assignments is that you're just drawing the structure without looking for the landmarks and it's making you make a lot of proportional errors. These women are very lean and you can see clearly the bony landmarks poking through. Review the landmarks lesson from the figure drawing course and try again this exercise looking very carefully for the clues of the skeleton you can see. Best Regards
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Kadin Lane
Any critique and advice is welcome!
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Gabi H
I think the spines are really well done! Maybe a little thicker in the lumbar section (mostly in the first one) but otherwise well done! The other thing I would say is to remember the perspective in the rib cage. Especially in the last picture, it looks like one side drops lower than the other (like the rib cage is asymmetrical). Maybe try to draw the rib cage inside a box so that everything goes back to the proper vanishing point. You’ll learn about this in the rib cage lesson so I wouldn’t be too worried. Great job!
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