Low Horvath
Low Horvath
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Hello , I’m Lawrence but most people call me Low, I’m a Beginner artist trying to improve. Eventually would love to get into graphic novels
Low Horvath
Followed along cause I get bored otherwise. Was there an assignment for this one ?
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Here was my attempt at the assignment before I watch the video. But judging from the thumbnail for the video I don’t think I was too far off. I just didn’t get the hand right aside from the fingers being hinges. I’ll be drawing prokos version of it too just for practice.
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Took me until the end of the video to realize I had already kinda learned a little about the shading method of line weight. I could be wrong but I believe It was taught in the proko portrait course when we studied how to shade the ear. Separating cast and core shadows , it’s apart of shadow mapping.
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Gene Plato
Starting again for various reasons. I found it hard to identify lighter value shapes.
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Low Horvath
You need to Use all straights , you used a lot of curves and those are hard to judge and weren’t apart of the assignment. The right side of the pair has the most light in the photo , but you put half tones there instead You made the center light in the middle of the pear. You need to switch those around. Think about where the light is coming from ( top rightish) maybe the highlight confused you, highlights aren’t an indicator of where the light is , it’s more about where you’re standing. Highlights are in the center light though. I would also darken your darkest areas more. Lastly when you shade, it should be with the tip of the pencil , and the shading should wrap around the forms but still in straigts, no curves. You didn’t do bad tho, do it one more time , I think if you took my advice you’d be spot on ! Light values are hard
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Here’s the attempt before I watch the demo. Going to follow along to the demo best I can. And see how I can improve what I have. Also if anyone has any tips on taking photos of your art it would be appreciated, I have alot of trouble getting a straight on photograph. :/
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@mikalah
The left side is my first attempt before the demonstration and I only had one pencil (just a regular #2 school pencil). The right side is after the demonstration and with a wooded graphite pencil set. I had a better time controlling the darker shades with the set because I was able to use a 6b for the darker blacks. I definitely had a harder time with the lighter shades because i wanted to press too hard down and they were coming out way too dark but I don't think it was too bad for my first time. Any critiques are welcome!
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Low Horvath
I did the other pair image he had.
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Low Horvath
I did one on my own. And then followed along to the demo ( I learn better when I follow along). And I’ll say there’s a lot for me to take out of this. What I need to work on - simplifying especially the lay in - accuracy - shading as a whole especially distinguishing shades and building up shades - keeping lines light. Any other suggestions or tips are welcomed. Unsure if I should draw the pear again. Or it Could help to do another fruit. Or if I should move on to the next lesson?
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Low Horvath
“Be a creeper stare at people’s noses” - Stan
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Low Horvath
The amount of information in 6 min is incredible, definitely gonna have to watch it at least like 30 x lol
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Low Horvath
Wrong materials were use ( boy did I learn my lesson” ) mistakes were made. But I never intended to make it perfect, I definitely tried , but what I wanted was to learn . And I absolutely learned so much. I’ll have to practice and try it on my own, I believe taking the portrait and anatomy courses will help so I’m onto that next. If anyone has advice on what I can do to improve let me know. ( and next time I’ll use the right materials and paper it’s so important to use the right paper brushes and pencils) edit: images are a little blurry idk why
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Low Horvath
What I learn the step by step approach of measuring-gesture- forms- darken background - 2 step value- core and cast shadows - midtones - high lights - rendering better understanding of core shadows cast shadows tend to have sharp edges while core shadows have softer edges ( I’m sure it’s not always true in every case though) the process of shadow mapping by looking at terminator lines and assigning them as core shadows or casts and finally take your time , double even triple check your measuring and use the right materials.
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@pmak22
Been a while posting, though was still practicing. These are two studies I worked on in the past 2 months. The women from the back is the one I worked on right after I worked on the reference for this assignment. I was really trying to figure things out with core shadows and some of the definition of back muscles. At some point I had to step away and call it even though I could have fixed a great many things. I also didn't really attempt to render the objects, which I'm cool with because that's not the point. The man from the front I just finished tonight. I feel like its a good deal of an improvement. I can see a dozen of things I'd do differently, like the face proportions are off, the hands are questionable, ect, but I'm really proud of what I was able to finish. I'm hoping to do at least 1 finished study a month for the rest of the year, but should start thinking about which aspect I want to focus in on to improve. Welcome to any feedback.
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Low Horvath
Omg watching you improve throughout all this time was amazing. You really blew these drawings out of the water!
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Low Horvath
Excited as a complete beginner who’s never made a comic to see what happens
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@pmak22
Finished the last three poses, and I am mostly happy with them, though one of them I feel like I may have not quite finished around the chest. Going to move on to proportions....errr after I watch the step by step
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Low Horvath
Definitely watch the video on proportions as proportions do seem to be an issue. I would also watch the measuring video , I already know how to measure and it really helps with proportions. But also , you’re over complicating the figure. Adding too many contours and it doesn’t seem like you’re breaking the figure into basic shapes that you understand. . Work more on designing your shapes. Design shapes that are easy to remember, easy enough that you can replicate the drawing without a reference.
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If anyone has any advice or tips they can give to me I’d appreciate it!
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@pmak22
Still getting back into Mannequinization, up to 10 at this point, probably will do at least 5 more before hitting balance.
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Low Horvath
These are great! Also Where did you get the reference photos at?
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Low Horvath
My take away from this is to think In boxes
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Low Horvath
I don’t understand the robo bean that starts on 11:50. Why does the bean end up looking like that I’m just not seeing it
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Emily Weigold
For this lean and twist example, the first tutorial video draws the overlapping lines in a certain direction from this reference - yet later in the twist assignment examples video, we're asked to spot what is wrong and are told the lines should overlap in the other direction - I'm confused as to which of these we should follow
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Low Horvath
Ithink of it as two connected rings or a chain if twisted the way shes twisting it would make sense whats infront of what
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@bfizz23
Can anybody offer general tips on how to determine which part of the bean should be in front? I've also attached specific examples I had trouble with: 1.) It looks like she's sticking out her hips toward us, but Stan drew the top part in front. 2.) She looks level and not tilting forward or backward, but Stan drew the bottom part in front. 3.) Same as #2, she looks kind of level, but Stan drew the bottom part in front.
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Low Horvath
You’re looking at it at surface level. You have to imagine the pelvis and rib cage and what they’re doing underneath the skin and muscles. You also have to exaggerate the bean . This is also more or less about gesture so there’s that too
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@pmak22
After finishing the video examples, I moved onto other references. I think at times I have a little trouble with joints and using them effectively to show the planes of certain points, ie the knee and elbow. I also find the top shoulder hard to understand, whether its a block shape or more of a curve. Overall I think I'll be moving on from Mannequinization lessons, I still think at times my line quality is a little messy, but its just something I have to work on.
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Low Horvath
These are amazing buddy! Although , I think exaggerating the poses on a few of these could really help.
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