Demo - Measure Proportions
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Demo - Measure Proportions
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Vera Robson
My second attempt at this. I tried two times to draw measuring proportions, but I just don't understand how to get it right - first measuring the ptoto with a pencil, then measuring again on the drawing introduces massive errors. I can see that my proportions are a bit off in this drawing, like the face should be a bit wider, but they were A LOT MORE off when I tried measuring. Hopefully watching more demos and critiques will help.
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A really important part of improving your observation skills is increasing the speed and frequency of feedback. While feedback from an instructor is great, that might not always be an option. In this demo, I'm going to  show you how to take a drawing that you did and compare it with a photograph on your iPad in Procreate so that you can check your accuracy and increase the speed of your feedback loop and improve faster.

Related Links:
Drawing Measuring Techniques
How to Draw Accurate Proportions

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Stan Prokopenko
Time for a portrait drawing demo! I'll show you how to approach a drawing to get accurate proportions and then check your own accuracy in Procreate.
Umbre on
4h
Tried it too, I'm happy I guess? But it's really so difficult to measure, I eyeballed some things and I think it shows
@irenemarceline
Attempt before watching the demo maybe my chin is too short not sure! My measurement was based mostly on the size of the front (and its 1/2 or 1/3 portion measurements ). Sweated through the mouth shape though lol
@mis_74
5d
My first attempt at it
Dana Cross-Payne
Tried a reference from Pinterest. I feel like the proportions of the head are okay but I completely botched her features and condensed them way too much. They’re too small and I crowded them all on the left side. This was a helpful exercise but measuring the features was hard for me. I used the very top of her head to the top of her brow because it worked best for measuring the head to neck and the horizontals as well. It didn’t work well at all for the eyes, nose, and mouth. i think I also struggled with the angles and perhaps over exaggerated them.
@coldemptyvoid
Howard Fullmer
Todays drawing practice for proportions. I wish I had more time to draw more
@sharone
20d
Did this drawing after seeing his demo. Found doing measurements came easier with the second try after the pirate. And so enjoyed this model that wanted to be creative with colors (also just saw a Matisse exhibit too 😉).
Darren
1mo
Attempted beforewatching.
torexxa
1mo
i tried
@toomuchhappiness
Is there supplemental material on this concept? Even while watching this video, I cannot get this specific portrait correct for some reason.
DK Taylor
2mo
Honestly relied on feel rather than measurements. It really slows me down and makes drawing too mathematical to me. But this was easier than the last assignment when I let loose. Critiques are appreciated.
@sharone
20d
Good likeness, but less specific to her
@mw25
2mo
Tried to do it like the others and knock it out before watching the video! Really happy with the results, can't wait to improve some more!
zeynep
2mo
it is the first time i tried to drawing digital.
Dylan Bragg
Here's my attempt before watching the video, one thing i've noticed that i'm good at eyeballing is the angles, but i'm not so great at organic shapes and i kind of heavily rely on straights
Christle Panickar
Decided to try this while eyeballing it.. I think it looks decent I guess but in terms of accuracy I was a little bit off.. still am pretty happy with how it came out. Didn't do much shading only the tiniest bit because it looked weird without it
Petar Ristic
Had a try at the portrait before watching the video
@ralk
3mo
I think with notes a lot as a recent habit for self-study, so I'll just share my thinking here. To keep this at least not too self-obsessed, I did an eyeballed version of this reference for fun (as attached). Look; measuring is hard and I've just spent all my rigor energy on the assignment and going over this video slowly, you gotta let me off the hook sometime, right? This was done with absolutely no measurements taken using pencil/stylus, and gauged solely by shape-feel. I didn't erase any lines that don't have to do with small details, so my thought process can be seen pretty much as-is. I thought she looked like a lemon and drew that as the most major shape. This loose sketch style is what I've always run with, where I wing everything with curved shapes and create flat, 2D, interlocked mosaics with very loose hierarchy in how I approach working through them. The problem with my approach has always been facial features at subtle angles, because there is no emphasis on angles or working out the 3D forms, with only the bare minimum of trying to use alignment. I think I've actually improved this intuitive approach since starting the course, but there's still a lot to fix, and I can see how a bit of stricter measuring sprinkled in there at the appropriate stage of lay-in before adding details can take things to the next level of accuracy. I've deliberately left out any kind of measurement or capturing angles with straight lines (I used to do them with curves) to see how far off I would be, but I think a bit of awareness of rhythm, being patient and deliberate with lines, and other things from this course still kept things convincing enough even though the features are tilted in relation to the facing of the head. ## two styles of drawing? I just did the self-critique for this project (for the musketeer) and I'm glad I went back to do it. It showed me that if I neglected measuring for one part, it could throw off all the things surrounding it; in my case, it was the reference person's right eye socket being too big. - I think I understood that it's not really that I'm that much better at eye-balling, but that I've done it enough that I have subconscious shape comparisons going as I draw. - With measurement, I don't have that habit developed yet, and measure-style is a lot more explicitly methodical with the act of deciding on units of measure, choosing which one is useful for the current problem, then taking measure with a pencil. I believe the core is no different, but the primary proportion checking method differs. - Where eyeballing would do a loose shape check, measurement wants you to compare with something concrete like the length you retain with your finger on the pencil. - I think from seeing how Stan works, they are not mutually exclusive, but more about what goals we have, and that influences which one is the primary method employed. - For example, if you're trying to draw a picture for someone you respect, you'd go for a more careful measured style because you want to show that effort in your gift. - If it's just for a friend, keeping it loose and adapting to mistakes or to caricature lets you express yourself in that way. I think I know what I have to fix. - I've always been very fast and loose with drawing. I would say that sometimes I can nail down the shape I want, but other times when I really want things a certain way, I don't have the precision for it and I'm forced to solve it by random adjustments. - So if I were to improve that eye for judging alignments and angles, and that sense of what unit of measure to pick and comparisons to measure against, then I should do more measure-based drawings, and let that know-how spill into rough eye-balling styles of drawings. One additional thing that I want to note is Stan's envelope technique. I think it's a personal issue, but I had difficulty understanding the actual nuances of it until I saw Stan blocking in the flowers in her hair. - Stan basically generated/imagined negative shapes to fill in the space between a straight line across the tips of the flowers and boxed that in. - Not only does that require training visual processing, but visual memory as well, because you need to be able to look at that envelope and understand what you packed in there as well. ## demos are great I really appreciate these demo lessons, because they embody a kind of problem solving technique that seems to have been buried under new tech: working backwards from the solution. - I read some of George Polya's How to Solve It, and that book isn't just about maths, but useful general heuristics about solving any problem. - While great lessons can guide a student to put together a solution, the next step of clarifying a path of incrementally improving that solution then becomes a problem in itself. - Working backwards from a valid and efficient solution and reverse engineering it until understanding takes significant effort and is not some kind of cheat. On a wider point about drawing in general and what comments I have about the course so far, I think I'm a case of having tried to run before I could walk, and I've done so for too long. - I think it's the lack of structure in what I want to tell, I look at everywhere and tell people to look everywhere as well, and in the end the effort was one that is too self-consumed. - I think it goes deeper into personal philosophy and reasoning skills, in that a desire and mindset to understand what you see, allows one to think more clearly and show more clearly what you think as well.
@ralk
3mo
As an addendum mostly to myself, the reason why her features are tilted is likely because my second monitor which I have the reference on is also at an angle. It is to my right and slightly slanted towards me on my right hand side, so when I squinted to get an angle estimate, it was the right angle judgment of the wrong arrangement. I'm just happy to be finding out all these factors that influence a drawing.
Sabyasachi Goswami
Did these two post demo. Considering hoe @Stan Prokopenko was taking the measurements. Looks better than the one I submitted in the last lesson. Was able to make more use of the full page this time. But lots of work to do. Please critique and suggest what I should focus on next and how to practice more.
Melanie Scearce
Yes! There is a big improvement between these and your recent post. Congrats! My suggestion is to try to keep your lines a bit lighter while you're working, and then darken them at the very end when you're confident they're in the correct placement. It's a great habit to have for drawing in general, but especially while you're learning proportions and may need to adjust your lines multiple times. It's much easier to make those adjustments when your lines are light and easy to fade into the background/lightly erase than when your lines are dark and committed to the page. It's a bit of a tedious process, measuring & making adjustments & measuring & making adjustments etc., but you're definitely improving, so keep going!
@quinnenshotz
@quinnenshotz
I had a hard time finding any measurement that I could repeatedly use across the model's face except for the length of her face from hairline to chin was the same as the width of her face at the widest point. So I mostly eyeballed the rest and took photos at each stage to see where I went wrong, and that was very helpful. I think I'll do a few of these to really get it down.
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