Gabriel Palma
Gabriel Palma
Mexico
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The breast is pulled upward so I identify the 5th and 10th ribs to place the rib cage. Sugeestions are welcomed.
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Gabriel Palma
Good guess! I think you are right :D Not sure if I would worry too much about those specific ribs, at least I personally wouldn't. I think you can improve the shape of the ribcage. It looks flat. Pay attention to the connection between the neck (cylinder) and how it connects with the ribcage. I think that should help with the 3d effect. Complicated pose, good work!
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Gabriel Palma
A teacher told me once: "when studying Bridgman, pay attention to how he desings his shapes". I think that makes sense after understanding the inter wedging and inter locking concepts. Your studies are great, by the way.
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Brandon
hi guys, this is my try on the assignment, not sure if I simplify the form enough, kind of treating it as an exercise for my drawing basics course that is now focusing on perspective. Hope I apply them well here. Not sure the form intersection with other forms, like sphere and cylinder is right or not. Would love to hear your feedback. Btw I found my paper has smudges when I erase my marks, any advice on that would also be appreciated. Now I'm just trying not to erase as much as possible : (
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Gabriel Palma
I wouldn't worry too much about erasing. These are exercises, so you are expected to make mistakes. If you can get the skelly app or find bone references, do it and copy them. Find interesting poses to practice the perspective. Avoid any poses where the bones look flat. I liked your drawings, I think you are doing great.
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Kuro Aresjot
Looking for feedback, completely got lost with Proko's explanation in the video. Tried my best to replicate the tracing. Any advice in how to memorize muscles groups.
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Gabriel Palma
That's good tracing. For memorization, just the old practice, practice, practice. Rewatch the video, re-do the excercise, go to the tools/timer section and find references of the back in different positions and trace them and draw them. Then, go back to the video. Things start to fall in their place after repetition. At least, that's what allowed me to memorize relevant muscles. Happy practice!
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Gabriel Palma
I agree with you, external oblique and abs vary from individual to individual. In my opinion, I think that watching a lot of references is very helpful. Look up pinterest for body builder torsos and sketch them. I guess that, in time, you'll build a visual memory of this part and will be able to incorporate it when you draw from imagination. That's what I would do (and what I actually do :)). I hope you can pass your block. @Isaac Litman
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Mike Karcz
Hello. Sometimes I struggle with the pelvis, and how to imagine the pelvis as a box, instead of round disks; like, where would the corners of the box be? I'd love and appreciate some tips on drawing the pelvis as a simplified shape.
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Gabriel Palma
IMO it's very hard to fit the pelvis in a box. The bucket shape is easier/better. The box works for me when the model has muscles. I prefer the bucket when drawing a skelleton. In your drawing, despite of the box, I really like the pelvis you draw inside. It looks very accurate.
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Luke Ng
Here are m hand Assignment submissions. All comments and critiques are greatly appreciated
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Gabriel Palma
Beautiful hands, great job! I particularly like the skin folds, the way you show muscles and gesture and the shading.
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Gabriel Palma
I think that's the humerus.
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Sundjiv
Hi everyone, could someone tell what this line corresponds to please ? I encircle the line in question in red. Is it the musle or a skin fold or something else in your opinion ? Thank you !!
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Gabriel Palma
I agree with @squeen . That's the pectoral muscle. You can't actually see its attachment to the arm in that photo because it inserts in the interior side of the arm.
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Gabriel Palma
I like your drawings. Regarding planes I've found very usefull to draw the asaro head over and over. I think there's an app with a model you can pose. Then, try to find those planes in your references. About cheeckbones, I think you could study the skull and make a ton of skull drawings from reference. I think that getting to know the bone structure helps you to see that through your references. Finally, about shading, I believe that's the same recipe that what I said above (and that's only my opinion). Study the skull and make hundreds of drawings to learn the structure. Study the asaro head and make hundreds of drawings to learn planes. Study basic shading and make a hundreds of excercises (Dorian Iten has an awesome video about shading here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vapw6n6FyU). I think that after practicing a lot of concepts separately, you get to understand them and apply them automatically in your final drawings.
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Gabriel Palma
I'm going to say proportions. If you meassure your figure using the head's height, I think it's a little short. I would also pay attention to the pec, shoulder and bicep of his left arm from a reference or looking at the corresponding proko videos. Abs are also symmetrical and obliques, ribs and serratus might need fixing but I could be wrong. I would definitely compare it against a reference and maybe trace the anatomy over the photo to compare and fix if required.
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Gabriel Palma
What pencil are you using?
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Gabriel Palma
I liked it! The pose looks really natural and that works. I think that perspective is a little off. Check out the legs of the chair.
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Gabriel Palma
Regarding likeness, pay attention to the light area of his face (right side). Trace that shape over the photo and compare it with yours.
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Gabriel Palma
Scott, congratulations for not abandoning your desire to do art. I think that alone, is worth of recognition. As someone already recommended you, go ahead and check the Proko videos on Loomis. However, in my opinion, those ones where there are examples of Loomis heads from actual people are very helpful (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC2ZppKHCqU). I think it's hard to draw from imagination as we tend to draw things as we believe they are, instead of drawing what we see. Go to google and search for portrait pictures and do the Loomis head for those. Pay attention to the thirds and particularly to the chin, jaw and cheekbones. You're trying to do many things in these studies (like shadowing, face features). I believe you could dedicate some pages to draw some solid Loomis heads from real people and some other to study features (like what you did with those skulls in the second picture). You're already on your way, according to one of your replies to other people in this thread, you're invested in drawing 100 heads (to start). Hope this helps.
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