I am overthinking this and all in all I probably should have done the current assignment instead but I felt the need to do it.
The passing from one side of the square to the other looked very wrong to me and I tried to fix it and I did not really succeed. The first fix was making the perspective wrong which in my opinion makes it look more right but I'm not satisfied with that without reason. The second try I thought a circle instead of a square might fix it but it ended up doing virtually nothing.
At this point I am more or less ready to accept that I can just treat this small issue as a case by case and move on, it was an interesting experiment at the end of the day.
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Drawing box flaps and inclined planes is a major challenge. When doors or flaps open on a hinge, they introduce new vanishing points that complicate your perspective. In this lesson, you learn how to handle these non-level planes without getting overwhelmed. We break down how to find the exact vanishing points for flaps that incline, decline, and roll. You will learn how to track these angles whether they are above, below, or right at eye level. We also cover why you should temporarily ignore proportions to master the angles first. You get to watch detailed demonstrations from Yves Yumol and Daniel Cherng. They show you how to confidently place these lines in complex spaces so you can build this skill yourself.
Inclined planes can easily break your perspective drawings.
Master box flaps by finding the level vanishing point first and moving along the vertical trace. Set proportion aside to focus entirely on aiming your receding lines.
I dont quite understand the wide angle one. Do we need to bend the Y line of the doors to fit into the correct intersections? Perhaps the problem is the ellipses are not proportioned correctly hence the line intersections differ 🤔
I realized you get different results depending on the method used... the question remains: which is more accurate???????? (the last panel is the overlay of the two--you can see there's a pretty big disagreement between the methods)
I took the lazy route and just drew two ellipses on either side of the box and joined the sides using the fixed radius instead of making more vanishing points. works if everything is paper thin...
I was thinking about the flat view of the door and it suddenly clicked, because its on a hinge its rotation around it describes a cylinder, If i know the with of the door and it is in front of me in one point perspective Then i can figure out by using the center line of the box the size of the box this cylinder would fit in. If i divide the circular top or bottom of the cylinder in half going trough the center point it will give me the vanishing point for that door plane, then I can thicken the slice up a little to make a door box. First one I did through the center of the rectangle which gave me a thin revolving door. The second one to get the rotation of the door outwards I drew the box that was to be the size of the door then doubled it to make the hinge point for the door on the center line.
Im sorry if this is very obvious to everyone, but this is the first time on this course i've figured something out on my own. And I think I said out loud "my god, its boxes!" :)
I am overthinking this and all in all I probably should have done the current assignment instead but I felt the need to do it.
The passing from one side of the square to the other looked very wrong to me and I tried to fix it and I did not really succeed. The first fix was making the perspective wrong which in my opinion makes it look more right but I'm not satisfied with that without reason. The second try I thought a circle instead of a square might fix it but it ended up doing virtually nothing.
At this point I am more or less ready to accept that I can just treat this small issue as a case by case and move on, it was an interesting experiment at the end of the day.
Hopefully I don’t add a confusing reply again, but I traced over your work, recalculated and found a difference in our ellipses. Maybe it’s as simple as that?
I can send you the other images of how I got there, but this was the outcome:
This video gives important info about the flap directions that I did not read well enough...☺️
Like Marshall said in his critique: let's not wear out our helpers.
So just to be sure. Can I decide, when adding a “door-flap”, if I pick the left or right? And based on looks I decide as an artist which is valid? For a role(?) do I only add a vp to the top or down but does the other vp stay put?
great lessons! You increased my level immens!
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