Missed adding few refs

Sorry, should have shared the examples. Here it is - elaborating on the two questions: Q1) How to reconcile/design negative and positive shapes when a more dynamic positive shape (i.e torso shape in fig 1) leads to a confusing negative shape (shape A)? On cancave vs convex negative shapes: Negative shape A is a mix of concave and convex edges vs Negative shape B is almost all concave edges. I prefer B personally as it is a clearer shape than A that has confusing edges. But A has more asymmtery which is more dynamic. On cancave vs convex positive shapes: Fig 1 torso is closer to what I see in the reference i.e. convex/straight and concave lines with one side being more complex than the other which is good (however, this leads to negative shape A which does not look as good to me as negative shape B). In Fig 2, while the rythm and energy of torso is clearer to me, however, it has both sides looking similar (but this leads to clearer negative shape B) Q2) I have marked all the ribbons in fig 2 - I tend to make them a lot. Also in fig 1, in the lower part of the stretched leg, a mix of concave + convex lines give a better shape than two concave lines (drawn in red). However, I see Stan using two concave lines for legs sometimes, so not sure here