Jesper Axelsson
Jesper Axelsson
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I´m an art student working hard to be able to draw the things I love and to be able to tell the stories I imagine
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This assignment is so intimidating, took me long time to even get started. Eventually bite the bullet today time to move on.
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Jesper Axelsson
Hi @mameko, great job! I found this assignment intimidating too, personally I think it's the hardest bone assignment in the course. But you've done great! If I would suggest anything it would be to practice drawing the acromion process, since it's such an important landmark for muscles. The angle that you seem to be struggling most with is the front 3/4 (the same I did a paintover of). Practice drawing from the 3D-model to get more familiar with it. Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work! PS If you're familiar with the Nintendo game F-zero; I like to think of Captain Falcon's ship Blue Falcon to remember what the spine of scapula and acromion process look like XD
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mameko
humm...so hard, poportion is not quite right, perspective is not quite right, even guesture is quite there. loosing my patient towards the end...
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Jesper Axelsson
Hi @mameko, nice job! Good construction! I actually don't think the proportions are that bad. The only major error I'm noticing is the width of the female pelvis; it is usually wider than the ribcage (refer back to the proportion diagram in the figure drawing course https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/human-proportions-average-figure/downloads ) Hope this helps :)
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AniGame
Hi, so here are my mannequin sketches. I drew them on my own and then I compared the result with Proko´s sketches. Sometimes I had to do it again when I felt that the proportion wasn't correct. If you see anything that I could change please let me know. Thanks.
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Jesper Axelsson
Really nice! Good structure and good gesture! Yes the proportions are off sometimes, you often make the head to big, but that's not the focus for this exercise. You're accuracy will improve with practice! - I would recommend drawing through the forms; If you're drawing a cylindrical crosscontour, draw a complete ellipse, only lighter on the hidden side; when you're drawing a boxy form, draw the hidden edges. Drawing through is a great way to check the accuracy of your construction Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work!
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AniGame
Robo bean practice, I made this a few days ago and I totally forgot to upload it here. I practiced this episode two times because it was hard to understand for me. Any criticism is welcome. Love you guys.
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Jesper Axelsson
Really nice! Got nothing to critique really!
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S. Martin
Side planes practice trying to include the neck movement with It. If any advice please share. Greetings.
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Jesper Axelsson
Really nice! Just a note on anatomy: The muscle you've indicated running from behind the ear to the pit of the neck, wouldn't be in a curve like that, I think Hope this helps :)
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Jovi Thomas
Hello everyone. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Jesper Axelsson
Nice work @Jovi Thomas! Strong gesture and good structure! - I think you're making the boxes a little thin - I would try to show more of the squashing an stretching happening in the fleshy area between the boxes. Emphasize the gesture with a straight on the streched side and a curve on the squashed side. Hope this helps :)
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tomasb
Hi all! Just started this course and here are some gesture drawings (first 30s) and the others 2-4 min. Started out spending more time with the 2 min poses and noticed they’re a bit stiff. When I losened up a bit I’m getting closer to 2-2,5 min. Some beans slipped in too. Comments and critiques appreciated!
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Jesper Axelsson
Hi @tomasb, really nice! I'll do my best to help you further: - The gesture in these is hard to critique, since it's already so good :) If I would suggest anything, it might be to give the drawings more VROOOM! (In search for a better expression XD maybe that's the stiffness you talked about). It could be about daring to exaggerate; as a rule of thumb you could try to make the drawings more gestural than the reference, to be on the safe side. Or it's about feeling the energy, rythm and empathizing with the model. Maybe you would appreciate watching Mike Mattesi's force drawing series https://www.proko.com/lesson/improving-line-quality-and-rhythm-force-series-part-1/discussions - There are moments in here where I would connect and simplify. You often split the arms up into upper and under arm, where you could have connected them into a single c or s-curve. How much you connect is up to you, just wanted to make you aware of the possibility If you want to push your ability to simplify and connect; here's an exercise I really like: Do 30s drawings where you limit yourself to 5 (or fewer) lines (CSI) + head. It´s a challange, but using only 5 lines will force you to find the core gesture. You can look at my paintover of another students work for inspiration. Note that I´m not drawing stick figures, but the flow passing through the forms - If you haven't already I recommend checking out this video https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/how-to-hold-and-control-your-pencil/assignments Being able to draw long strokes from your shoulder is a great tool; the drawings come out faster and are more clean. - I attached an image with some practice tips, that might be useful as you continue with the course Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work!
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Genie Sanon
my take on this lesson :)
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Jesper Axelsson
Really good! - I think the 3D effect would be stronger if you weakened the reflected light slightly. You can look at Stan's example for inspiration; note how the shade and shadows are clearly darker than the lights. - It would be nice if you took the photo straight on. When you take the photo at an angle, you get distortions, which makes it harder to critique. Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work!
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Andrey
Hi. I am new to drawing. Here are my gesture drawings, 30 seconds was too fast for me, so I increased to 45 seconds. Critique and advice are appreciated.
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Jesper Axelsson
Great start @Andrey! You're on the right track! Good level of simplicity and a focus on the gesture! Keep on practicing these! PRACTICE TIPS I attached an image with some practice tips. I think this is the most important advice I can give you at the moment. If you practice a lot and with those tips in mind I think you'll be able to improve fast and find the answers to many of your questions on your own. DRAW THE FLOW I think you would appreciate reading the critique I gave another student, Tobe O. Especially the tip about bending the contours to support the flow https://www.proko.com/profile/thosakwe/activity (Scroll down to his first post) But again the practice tips are the most important, especially the part about following along with Stan, since his good habits will become part of your repertoar Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work!
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Nathan Alonso
Here are more balanced poses. I also tried to invent I pose based on a balanced one.
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Jesper Axelsson
Nice! The structure of the mannequins is great! I think the balance in the 3rd drawing is very succesful! - In the first drawing it feels like her weight is on her left leg, whereas in the photo, most of her weight is on her right leg ( the center of her mass is more over her right foot than the left; see attached paintover ) - When working on balance I think it's important to empathize with the model; "how would it feel to strike that pose?" "Where does it feel like most of the weight is?" and to ask intuitive questions, like "If I left her standing, would she fall to any side?", using the same intuition you would use when buidling a tower of wooden blocks. - I don't think the 2nd photo reference, actually is a balanced pose. It's mid action, he's falling to the right. Keep that in mind when choosing reference Hope this helps :)
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al Ramirez
hey guys i drew this fox character for the assignment, i had a hard time doing it mainly because i never drew animals before but i try my best. what can i do now to improve it in the future?
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Jesper Axelsson
Hi @al Ramirez, I think this is a nice drawing! Good use of the ellipse crosscontours! It would be nice to see you do more attemps on this exercise and the different solutions each subject will have you come up with! I'll do my best to help you further: - It would be nice if you made the muzzle more geometrical. Right now the form feels a little ambigous. I attached a paintover that you can use as inspiration - I attached a screenshot of a critique I gave another student. I think you would appreciate reading it Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work!
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Brayden Luttrell
Here is what I have so far. I hope this is sort of simplified to the actual joints on skelly. I will redo them if they are too simple but I like to know how I can improve further if so?
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Jesper Axelsson
Hi @Brayden Luttrell I think the level of simplicity is good, not too much details in the contour; a focus on the larger shapes! I'll do my best to help you further: GEOMETRIC FORMS It would be nice if you built the joints using simple geometric forms, like Marshall does in his examples, with spheres, cylinders and boxes, using crosscontours to clearly show the 3D-forms. I noticed that you've started taking the Figure Drawing Fundamentals Course aswell! Great! It's an awesome course! If I may, I would suggest that you give the figure drawing course your full attention and wait a little with the anatomy course. The things taught in the figure drawing course, like gesture and 3D-forms, are crucial to have in order to fully appreciate the anatomy course. You could think of the figure drawing course as the Anatomy 1 course Here´s a little story from my life: A few years ago I dreamed of being able to draw Tarzan. The Disney movie had been my favorite since I was a baby. I really wanted to learn anatomy, I found proko´s course, and started taking it, but I soon felt that something was lacking: I didn't know the fundamentals well enough. It was difficult to realize that, because it felt like my goal of being able to draw Tarzan was miles away, but I decided to take the figure drawing course anyway. I´m so glad I did! It gave me exactly what I wanted!; being able to draw gestural 3-dimensional figures, from imagination. I learned the most important part of drawing Tarzan! And to my suprise my figures felt quite accurate eventhough I didn´t know anatomy. It was like I had learned the pattern of the human body. I realized that rather than thinking of the figure drawing course being a obstacle in front of the anatomy course, it is more like the Anatomy 1 course. I hope this was helpful :) Keep up the good work!
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Andrea Anaya
Hi everyone! Here are some beans I drew that I'd love to get some feedback on. Veronica 052 confuses me lol
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Jesper Axelsson
Hi @Andrea Anaya, the beans look really good! They have strong gesture and they seem accurate to me! Some of them are harder to read because of the irregular use of lineweight. One way to give readability to your drawings is to consistently make the contour lines thicker/darker and the lines within thinner/lighter. It's as simple as that :) I've recently started to apply that to my own drawings and I've seen a big improvement in readability. It can be very subtle, as long as the contour is thicker/darker, and still have a clarifying effect. Choose the style you prefer! Hope this helps
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Callum Kendrick
I haven't drawn in a while so I'm a bit rusty. I find it difficult to find/imagine the top plane of the ribcage. I'd like some feedback, thanks.
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Jesper Axelsson
Wow! Great structure! In the second image, the ribcage should be a little larger and the 10th rib is farther down. Otherwise these look pretty accurate to me! One thing that helped me get the first rib (the top plane) right is to imagine laying my hand on it (really imagining!). In a front view for example, you can start by finding the top of the manubrium (which the first rib attaches to), then from there imagine the first rib. I elaborated a little more on the artist's X-ray vision in a critique to another student. I attached a screenshot, feel free to read it. Hope this helps :)
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Sita Rabeling
Just in the first 2 drawings I held the pencil like Stan does, but then I went over to my usual way, like when writing. I want to get used to the other way too though.
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Jesper Axelsson
Hi @Sita Rabeling Good gesture! I can feel the energy flowing through the poses! I'll do my best to help you further: SIMPLIFY There are a lot of detail in your drawings, that you don't really need to capture the gesture. As a rule of thumb try to ignore stuff that doesn't do much for the gesture. I would aim for the level of simplicity Stan has in his drawings If you really want to boil it down you could try this exercise: Do 30s drawings where you limit yourself to 5 (or fewer) lines (CSI) + head. It´s a challange, but using only 5 lines will force you to find the core gesture. You can look at my paintover of another students work for inspiration. Note that I´m not drawing stick figures, but the flow passing through the forms When you have good control over the big picture, detail can be added more intentionally ASSYMETRY One thing that can happen when you unintentionally add detail to a pose, is that you stiffen the pose, by exeggarating the wrong bump. A common issue is to give a limb a symmetrical contour. The symmetry kills the flow. What you want to do is to draw contours that support the flow. Put simply, if the gesture is a c-curve, bend the contour lines to follow that c-curve. You could also think of the gesture as a stream of water that the contour should push forward from side to side. A curve on one side is followed by a curve on the other side. This assymetrical contour pushes the flow forward. PRACTICE TIPS I attached an image with some practice tips that helped me a lot when I took the course Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work!
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rayan
Hi! This is my attempt assignment 1. I had many questions during the exercise and i wrote several of them in the image . I didn't understood some things . Maybe it doesn't matter a lot ? Hope to get feedback) Sorry if i made mistakes, English isn't my native language.
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Jesper Axelsson
Hi @rayan, good job! Don´t worry if getting the anatomy right is hard at this point. Stan just wanted to show tracings in the beginning since it's an exercise that you can use as a study tool when you dive deeper into the course. The thing to take with you from this lesson is how to do an anatomy tracing.   The two things I look for in a tracing are: 1. Varying lineweight; thicker for the border of muscles and thinner for the muscle fibers. This gives clarity to the tracing 2. Fiber-lines going all the way. I want to be clear with how the fibers track so I like to draw them all the way from where they originate to where they insert, and not just indicate them floating in the middle of the muscle.  I hope this was helpful :)
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Local Vampire
Happier with these than yesterday's, getting a better sense for looseness and motion. Warmed up with 30s scribbles, these are 2-3m attempts.
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Jesper Axelsson
Wow really nice! Got nothing to critique! I looked at your previous post too. Given the amount of lines you use in those drawings I have a feeling that you would benefit from doing an exercise where the goal is to use few lines. An exercise like that could also help you identify the big picture more quickly, making it possible to capture the essence of a pose in a few seconds. So if you feel like that could be something for you, here's the exercise: Do 30s drawings where you limit yourself to 5 (or fewer) lines (CSI) + head. It´s a challange, but using only 5 lines will force you to find the core gesture. You can look at my paintover of another students work for inspiration. Note that I´m not drawing stick figures, but the flow passing through the forms Hope this helps :)
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Jesper Axelsson
Great job! - The neck looks like it's too far to the left. Make sure that the cylinder of the neck is in the center. Here the boxy robo bean ribcage comes handy, since it makes it easy to find the centerline. Hope this helps :)
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Bas de Vries
Some more 30s gesture practice of last week or so.
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Jesper Axelsson
Really good! - 3rd image, bottom right corner: Instead of drawing two lines for the left side of her torso, I would draw one of them on the right. That way the energy of the pose is being pushed from side to side. I've recently rediscovered my love for this after studying "Bridgman's Life Drawing" for a personal project. He has a chapter in there called RYTHM, and it looks like it's all about meeting a curve with an opposing curve, to push the energy through the pose. Mike Mattesi is big on this concept too, which is why I linked his video in the reply to your other post. Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work!
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Bas de Vries
2m gesture practice, feedback appreciated
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Jesper Axelsson
Really nice! You're doing gesture drawings at a high level. I'm trying to think of ways to help you further. Maybe watching Mike Mattesi's force drawing series could give you new insights https://www.proko.com/lesson/improving-line-quality-and-rhythm-force-series-part-1/discussions Hope this helps :)
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