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LESSON NOTES
Assignment examples of the Bean twisting.
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Lesson 2c Bean Examples – Twist.mp4
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ASSIGNMENTS
Draw the Bean
This week, practice drawing the bean from the pose photos at proko.com/poses. It shouldn’t take you more than 30 seconds to a minute for each pose. Look for tilting, leaning, twisting, and foreshortening. Exaggerate the motion and draw the two volumes, the skin in between, and the centerline.
Why Stan makes this points/dots on the torso/rip especially in the chapter "bean"? What does that mean?
Here are my attempts at the poses in this video! Like my last post, I am watching the demonstration first and then attempting it myself, using the demonstration drawing as a guide (actively thinking about the twist of the form, trying to visualise the "bean" shape as I look at the model, etc.)
I'm trying to fight my bad line habits and try to keep them to a minimum, but I've always struggled with curves so there will be growing pains.
@Stan Prokopenko I am confused with the twist/overlapping lines. The explanation was that the corners closest to you have the overlapping lines. However, in the example that states "whats wrong" you flip the corners/overlapping lines. The corner furthest had the overlapping line which confused me bc i was following the explanation prior. Am i missing something? Can anyone help? I deleted my previous post bc it posted 3 times lol
Okay, I think my new approach toward form twist is working. The main issues I seem to encounter, have to do with adding the secondary crease and properly moving the center line across the form. Deciding if there should be a secondary crease still seems to be hard to determine. I think it only seems to be prominent on beans with S-shaped centerlines, but not all of them. If there is a significant pinch on one side, even if there is a significant twist, there is no secondary crease. Overall I consider this a success for my understanding of the bean. I just need to refine my instincts with how I juggle all these problems quickly.
these are from the video, will add more from other reference and from imagination. feedback welcomed!
Bean Twist studies, saw the video, did my interpretation of the bean, then saw stan and did a new one accordingly, some beans have many tries before seeing stan's demo, feedback appreciated!
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These are my practice drawings for the twist assignment. I still need to work on making my lines less stiff with my beans. I had the most trouble with the poses of the models lying on their side. If anyone can help me with the looseness of my lines, like with the gestures exercises, that would be very much appreciated.
Back with more beans! This one proved particularly tricky, so I'm probably gonna go back to the original video and watch the section on the twist after I go through the foreshortening demo. I've been using the models from the video, but have avoided copying Proko's example and have instead tried adapting based on his results in an attempt to notice any mistakes in my work.
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Nice! I think you did a good job capturing the position of the bean!
- I would be extra mindful about the proportions of the torso: the upper part is taller than the lower part. The hips are of equal width to the ribcage in a male. In a female the hips are wider than the ribcage.
- Sometimes I feel like the middle mass between the ribcage and pelvis is undefined. Rather than two parts, it might help to think of the bean as three parts. Two modified balls for the ribcage and hip, and a mass inbetween.
- Think about how you can use line weight to communicate things such as force, overlaps and form. Stan talks about line weight in this video Line Weight
Hope this helps :)
here is my Twist Assigment! I usually draw along with Stan using the video above.
some of these I seen differently and looked and worked until I seen them the way you did. Others I seen differently and worked on them and worked and looked and finally just drew them the way I thought they were. I circled the numbers of the ones I had most trouble with.
So I tried something new with this twist examples. First I watched the video with the right side covered, doing my best to figure out how to do the twist, then I watched the video with both sides uncovered and drew in green the major differences.
Things I noticed were that I really struggled with the twists that didn't have a C curve, in other words the twist stuff. I found my use of the S curve was very under represented. I also seem to have a crutch where I always thing there needs to be a C or straight line on one side, not quite understanding that the both sides can be twisted (like in the towel example from the first video).
Overall I liked this sort of guess approach and will try it again with the other example videos.
8/4/22: Draw-along to the video. I found Twist much more difficult than Tilt & Lean. Any critique is welcome!
At 1:23 he draws a bean that he demonstrates in the figure drawing critiques. The center curve on the bottom of the bean faces the opposite direction when he redraws it. Maybe someone from the team should update the videos so that there is one correct example. It's confusing.
Bean Twist. I had a hard time figuring out the overlaps in the beginning. My mind always perceived it the opposite way. But when I focused on following the s curve of the body / the twisted centre line instead of the shoulder and hip rotation it got easier. I guess this is the hardest part of the bean for me. Going to keep practising.
