Jonatan
Jonatan
Mexico
I like to draw!
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Jonatan
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Hello, got a question regarding the subtitles from the Figure Drawing Fundamentals, I can see the subtitles when I see the videos on Proko.com, but when I download them and see them on my device the subtitles are not available, I don't see a separate download for the subtitles either, is that normal?
Jonatan
I have been using the Timer Tool a lot, almost daily, many times a day for practice for almost a year, I also have been using them for the courses like the Head Construction Course https://www.proko.com/course/head-drawing-and-construction by Michael Hampton and the Figure Drawing Course https://www.proko.com/course/figure-drawing-fundamentals by Stan. I'm going to explain why it's so imporant to have this feature and why it not being there is a bad thing. The thing that I have been having a lot trouble with is that by the end of the timed session, if I want to deliver my studies and practices for the lessons/assignments in the course, I have to stop the Timed Session each time a new image changes, so I can save it and put it on the canvas I'm working on to show the reference I used, and my take on the gesture, anatomy construction, etc. This is highly inefficient, also bad for the timed sessions themselves. Instead of being able to focus 100% on the Timed Session, I have to pause when a new image shows, right click on the photo to copy the photo shown to the clipboard, go back to the drawing program, and paste it on the canvas, then RESUME the timed session. It's a big distraction, specially on 30 second poses to 2 minute poses from having to pause every time, and it doesn't let me fully enter into the head zone to focus completely on the session. That's the only feature stopping the Proko Timer tool from being definitive! Many other online tools like Pixellovely, Quickposes.com and LineofAction have this feature at the end of their online tools! But I can't use the Proko Reference Image Packs I have bought on those websites, so they're of no use to me! Those places also lack the very useful features of being able to re-enact a practice you did days ago by checking your "Timed Sessions" section on your dashboard at Proko (Extremely useful feature, thank you for this!) Being able to see the images at the end of the session is extremely important, also so the artist can review their work by comparing it to the reference, and even get feedback from their peers! Another important thing for people that do Timed Sessions on a sketchbook, which I ALSO do, along with digital ones, the (very inefficient) action of right clicking on the images to paste on the canvas if you're working on digital doesn't work here! I've seen so many assignments by people taking courses on this website having to take PHOTOS of the screen so they can paste the reference awkwardly into their traditional sketchbook practice, this is not good! PLEAAASE, add the ability to see the pictures the Timer Tool used for the session at the end of the session, it's an extremely important, very useful feature that would be a game changer for many people using the timer too! And it would make it closer to becoming THE DEFINITIVE TOOL. (The only thing missing would be a Class Session option but I digress). Sorry this became a really long post, but I really wanted to make it clear how important it is that this feature is missing from the timer, this would help all the students at Proko! Thanks for reading and I hope the point I'm trying to make can be seen!
Jonatan
Hello! Nice work so far on these! I'm an intermediate artist but I think what you could improve is focus less on details like shadows, features like lines that mark parts of the body like the ribs, muscle, etc. And focus more on the gesture of the pose itself, you got the overall shape of the pose, but the gesture is a bit stiff, I'd suggest starting from there! https://www.youtube.com/@ProkoTV The Proko youtube channel has many resource videos on how to approach Gesture drawing, free videos which are free to access, if you can't afford a course, these are great to get you on the path! If you can afford a course, I really recommend Stan Prokopenko's Figure Drawing Fundamentals https://www.proko.com/course/figure-drawing-fundamentals which I have been taking, it's really good and goes in depth about the approach to the figure in terms of gesture at the start, and it guides you along how to solidify the gesture into more constructed shapes and how to add all the details, starting from the gesture drawing. There is also Michael Hampton's gesture course https://www.proko.com/course/the-gesture-course, I haven't taken this course personally, but Michael is a great teacher and Proko's youtube have some of the lessons from the course up in youtube for free. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSyGOZjTs5A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APKNdfEtRbo&t=1025s Hope this helps on your artistic road! Good luck!
Jonatan
Hello, I've been having this issue a lot recently, but the Proko.com website keep kicking my login out after a certain number of days, I don't know what causes it, but after a year+ of using the website it has become a bit irksome having to enter my log in so often after a couple days, a week, or so. This doesn't happen in any other website I visit that requires my log in. I really suggest for the website to implement a way to remember my log in, please!
Jonatan
Yeah, I've been having this same problem too, been trying to download all the courses I purchased and because of the limit, I've had to do it a certain amount per day and I'm nowhere near done after 3 days of trying to download all the videos of my courses. It's tedious.
Jonatan
Yeah, we need a wish list function, would be extremely useful.
Jonatan
Don't be mean to Marshall! ;.;
Juice
21d
This! Be nice to Marshall.💜
Jonatan
Followed a long the video, grabbed the reference on screen, and did my own take before the solution by Michael Hampton was shown, the redlines are corrections after seeing the solution, feedback is appreciated.
Michael Hampton
Nice work!
Jonatan
Note: The spanish and english subtitles around Marshall's and Kim Jung Gi's interview break a little bit. Great video, it's great to hear it from masters how it all starts with the basic concepts, a lot of people think that masters are free of them, but in reality they've been drawing so much it's just part of them now.
Marshall Vandruff
Yes, when XYZ become so assimilated into an artist's eye and brain, they hardly think about them consciously anymore, the way musicians hardly think of individual notes when they jam.
Charlie Nicholson
Thanks for the heads up! I'll pass that along to the publishing team
Jonatan
Note: - from 14:30 to 14:54 the subtitles stop working. - At 40:20 I think he says "Don't have to be perfect" instead of the opposite Excellent lesson! The subject/approach was really easy to understand, I can't wait to give it a go, I got to say Mr. Philip's enthusiasm when talking about the lesson and sense of wonder about the things you can achieve with it, commenting on "how cool this looks", etc, is so infectious, was smiling just hearing him talk and show this class.
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