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Carlos Javier Roo Soto
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Here's my first try. Next time I'll just sketch the outlines free-hand instead of using the tools, it will be quicker. I guess that more I do this, the more details I can add in 5 minutes. Just wish my dexterity was better.
See anything that I should improve on? Would it be better to start with room itself first before adding furniture?
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Is there a reason that looking up is less intuitive than other angles? I did a couple rooms and tried to experiment with some basic skull constructions. It helps to draw through but I need to slow down as well.
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QUESTIONS: Should I draw from photos only and/or life? Are other artist work acceptable? Is it thumbnails like the examples show in the video or is it a full page quick sketch? Do I draw one example in 5 minutes first then redraw it in 3 minutes, then in 1 minute?
Also, I notice you are giving demonstrations like the one of this book, should I read the chapters on Eye-level as a companion for this lesson?
Can anybody recommend where to find examples that aren't ai generated?
And finally are you annoy by this many questions? If so would you accept my apologies?
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Carlos,
That's a lot of questions, but I'll do my best here to help get you on your confident way!
Photos or life, either is fine. Life is harder, but probably better for you if you're up to the challenge of "binocular vision" and distractions and a changing environment. Photos are easier because they stay fixed and are already flat, so starting with photos is good for any student who finds this scary.
Working from other artists is fine too, but the problem is that artists take liberties, and you may find that their views don't quite conform to the world the way romance stories don't quite conform to romance. If you want to work from the examples in the video, why not? They were from students working to "tell the truth" of their rooms, and may get you started with their simple approaches.
The increase in speed is to start you slowly enough not to freak out, but when you are comfortable, speeding it up to increase your focus on what's important: eye level. I think it's even a good idea to say out loud the "up goes down" and "down goes up" mantras because that is the purpose of this lesson — to drive in that awareness.
Remember, this is not about slick drawing, it's about noticing, now and forever, what's above and below you, and drawing it with ease.
Norling's books are good. Use them. Use any books that help. They may add things I have not taught you. But the job here is to draw room after room after room, learning to aim up, down, and away.
Honored to be chosen as an example. Even though I'm not worthy Master Marshall.
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And here's my final batch for the assignment. I don't know why I have such a hard time doing cleaner sketches, but is a habit I have for years now. Any advice on how to break it easily?
I also notice that I had a harder time doing this ones compare to my first time, maybe is because I took some short break from the assignment to give some rest to my hand. And my first go-to with the grids came shortly after two whole weeks grinding XYZs and the arrows in space.
I realize too that the farther wheels on the final drawing are way off in size compare to the ones closest to us, even though I was certain I got the box right before building the buggy, and even though I didn't have an ortho view of the back I think I got pretty close, what do you guys think?
Also, I forgot @Rachel Dawn Owens had give me some feedback on my first try and didn't keep that in mind while doing these ones. Sorry Rachel I'll try to pay more attention next time.
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Alright! Here's my first attempt to this assignment. I had drawn with grids before so the new element I dealt with was labeling the vanishing line as XYZ to keep them on the back of my mind as I eyeballed the orthos. It was hard drawing the lines that converge outside the page because I don't have a longer ruler and probably they are a little off, so when I had the money I'll buy a larger one and move stuff from my desk and attach more paper to make them more precise.
Like Marshall said, I kept them simple with no details and just make them simple forms, but I am doing more so maybe for the last one I will add details. Or maybe I should let the detail for later on in the course?
What do you think? Should I dare add details for future submits? Or instead of detail should I use secondary forms so it resembles more the buggy without details?
What mayor errors can you see?
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These look awesome to me! The ellipses are angled the right way and the simplified forms are designed nicely.
Only thing I might do is make the wheel bigger. The 4 wheels are the most important element. Then the seat, then the windshield area, then the smaller details.
Work big to small and make your drawing as epic as you can.
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I dared to foreshortening, but I'm ashamed to say I didn't dared enough. Also I don't think I was in the right mindset while doing this.
I was thinking more of having this done today to be critique than actually putting conscious effort into applying the lessons here. Also probably switching to the ruler halfway wasn't the best idea, since it change the objective from trying to understand space to precision. Would you guys agreed?
Think maybe I should try with the blob approach for a while or keep trying to rough it out right away even with my poor straight line quality? Or a combination of both?
What should I been thinking while doing these?
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The front view looks really cool!
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It is strange to me how I can do straight lines more confidently with a marker than with a mechanical pencil, I don't know what it is. Maybe some of you can have a theory. But after doing the rough pencil I decided to use the ruler for the axis lines. Did the same with the arrows in space and I'm getting more comfortable with the ruler.
But I think I went safe with the views of these drawings. Do you see anything that needs work?
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I don't know what happened with the first set of cubes/boxes that turn out like this, also with one of the arrows from memory. As you can see, by the time I realize my mistake it was already too late; what probably happen is that my mind wonder off and I just automatically redo the arrow I did just before.
I also seem to have troubles with the thickness in some boxes and arrows they get wider as the go away in space, if anybody has any advice (Or you @Marshall Vandruff) to keep in mind to fix these issues freehand, I would appreciated.
One more thing, Marshall or anyone, do you have a recommendation of how to use this book (or any other book of this nature) along side this course? I haven't read it yet, but I guess I could start using it now or do you think it would conflict with the curriculum of the course?
