Geert-Jan
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2mo
Week 54: Some more drapery studies + I did an (unpaid) commission for a birth card. Drawn from imagination in procreate. I'm pretty happy with the inking, but I'm also struggling with adding highlights and shadows in a cartoony drawing.
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1mo
it's absolutely lovely, but tbh i am not sure where the lightening is coming from (top-left?), I think children faces confuse me and the bird's tail
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I'd love some feedback on those 1 minute and 2 minute sketches.
At some point I started to draw with simple cheap pen, and it helped me to avoid uber hairy lines - its still not perfect, but I am for sure more mindfull about where I can put theme sice I dont have an option to erase them.
I try to work at one thing at the time and for now it is mostly flow (and not shrinking people's heads).
I dont like the design of most of my shapes, but I feel I should just ignore it for now - or that is a mistake and I should copy someone whos shapes I like try addapting them to new poses?
The quality of the photo's isn't great I'm sorry, but I would love some feedback. These drawings are from my last practice session (8th one I think since I started the assignment). The first image is 30 seconds, the rest 2 minutes. I'm often "finished" much earlier than 2 minutes (as in if I go further its not really a gesture drawing anymore) which might be an indication that I don't take the time to think about where I place my lines. I often see this in my own drawings too, where I end up constantly erasing and redoing because I hurry to much and mess up my paper. I would love to hear someones view on this!
3mo
You are doing great!
I am total noob so take it all with a grain of salt, I can be wrong :)
I do have the same problem with 5 minutes drawing that you have with 2 minutes.
What helped me was to change a bit a main objective with time I think you could use a bit of exageration on some of the poses - that can also force you to think more before putting the pencil down. Or try to measure at least some masses - it should also slow you down and switch on thinking before drawing.
I feel like in some of the drawings if I draw a ribcage where you indicated it is, It would be deformed. as it ends a bit too low or too high. Maybe try drawing through the poses.
Also I think you draw arms in a very similar way most of the time - to accentuate that there is force going through the arm, especially when somebody is pressing it to the ground, try drawing it with straight line.
I hope some of it will be usefull!
Keep up great work, you have such a clean lines its amazing!
The left image is in 30 seconds. The right image is in 2 minutes. I tried drawing for 30 minutes today. It was difficult!
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4mo
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does anyone have any advise for how to draw limbs? I struggle with doing the gesture on the arms and legs, I feel like the limbs are too stiff but I don't know. also any other feedback would be appreciated. thank you
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tryed the gesture exercise before moving onto the next video, any feed back on where im going off is appreciated.
4mo
Great idea with drawing with the pen, you have to commit to the line and that is great for practicing gesture drawing.
What I'd adive is try avoiding the dreaded "snowman effect". Its basically when you have symmetry on the bumps of your image like with legs and arms on the second one. For drawing gesture much better is to make one side cirved and the second one straight or curve them the same way (cause this is about the motion and not about the outline)
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Awesome stream!
I lately try out a new thing - doing a fast small sketch where i try to focus on gestures and force. Then I write down some notes, to help inform a bigger drawing of the same pose, that I'll do next.
Almost every time the second one is worst.
The only idea I have, why that can happen, is that I am loosing confidence, cause somehow big picture is bigger stakes? It does sounds riddiculous, but hey, its brain, it thinks a lot of weird staff.
Any tips for me appart from draw enough to gain confidence?
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4mo
Can we all pretend that big face in the middle is not there? Thanks!
Also drawing with a pencil is nerve wracking, but hey it was out of your comfort zone practice, so here we are....
5 to 10 minutes timer.
Week 43: i've finished the 100 hands challenge!
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11mo
You gotta watch out for that! I'm prone to hand/wrist/shoulder injuries, but I've never felt "stiffness" in the forearm. You probably need to take a day or two break, and make sure you take frequent breaks during drawing, like every half an hour to an hour. Set an alarm for it.
Where in the forearm are you feeling? What's the posture when you draw, like do you raise your arm to draw on the easel, or flat on your desk? Do you also use a lot of mouse or type a lot in addition to drawing? Sometimes it's the mouse or keyboard that breaks the camel's back.
Look up "forearm pain physical therapy" and find exercises that you feel right for your condition.
10mo
Thanks, I googled some stretches and those helped a bit. I will probably go to my physio and let her have a look ai it.
10mo
Hi! I know people with problems with that too. You might find this useful: Book: Conquering carpal tunnel syndrome and other repetitive strain injuries: a self-care program (1996) by Sharon Butler (You might find page 36 interesting) and Brandon Dayton YouTube Channel: Managing Hand Pain for Artists.
Week 41: decided to start with anatomy III: the arms which includes the 100 hands challenge. So i'm doing both realistic hands and cartoon hands. As a warm-up i do gesture drawings digitally.
10mo
Yay, we are on the same unit!
Are you drawing with all the steps recommended by Stan? I mean - gesture -> structure -> lines > details? I find it hard to establish the right proportion when I start with gesture,
TBH I was surprised to learn that I actually like drawing hands. Don't get me wrong I suck at it, but I also feel that is OK, because it is honestly hard subject to draw.
ps. I'm curious what you will think of rotating heads challenge - I found it extremely difficult.
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Health and forearm11mo
Hi everyone,
recently I feel stiffness in my forearm, and I suspect it is due to drawing much more in recent months.
Do you have any favorite stretches or exercises that help you stay injury free?
Week 38: i've combined the drawabox approach of drawing animals with Stan's Structure Basics – Making Things Look 3D lesson. (the last one suggested by @Liandro ) Drawing animals with 3d shapes, but i've used a fineliner and ink to draw them. For the fun side, i did an Aaron Blaise study of this coyote.
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2yr
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This morning’s work; forearm assignment 5.
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week 35: Start of a new unit. I've decided to continue with the drawabox.com exercises. First i will be finishing the 250 cylinder challenge, which i've previously started. It is still a very hard challenge to draw these boxes and cylinders with a pen free hand. For the fun side i cartoonized a bunch of people from reference. I've tried to add some shadows and highlights from imagination, but it doesnt seem quite right? Maybe someone has some good tips on that?
11mo
oh my the cylinders challenge, I am not a fan, but you are doing great!
I know it is conscious style choice, but maybe you can try varying limelight in those caricatures? I remember it worked very well in your previous posts,
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1yr
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The longer I study proportions, the more my brain wants to mess things up! On the right is a drawing from memory and it looks more heroic than the referenced midgets on the left. The female figure especially, since I tried drawing her without the heels. While I like the heroic proportions, I disliked Loomis's method the most. The upper limbs and hands are still the hardest to nail. I think that I will search for a method that mixes both Richer and Hale's logic.
1yr
i just want to applaud you for drawing a female figure without the heels - I always thought it is such bullshit to measure a it e with heels... I mean, I understand where it is coming from - commercial work - but also... Loomis, with all my love, wtf, man.
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Week 32: The second week of my own inking unit. This week i've worked mostly digital. I've explored different inking brushes in procreate. Some of the brushes are standard brushes that can be found in procreate, but in the past i've also purchased a comic brush pack from Ittai Manero which i also used. This week another lesson was published in Stan's beginner course about line-weight, which would fit perfectly in this learning unit. Also continued reading in the "the art of comic book inking" book.
1yr
Omg I love the second rhino <3. It is so great you are really exploring different approaches
Week 29: continued with gesture drawings and the proko basics course. For fun drawing, i discovered the "reddit gets drawn" community https://www.reddit.com/r/redditgetsdrawn/ where i tried to cartoonize some people :). Also had some great feedback from different people in this topic. For the upcoming week i will continue gesture drawing.
1yr
I love the fact you are doing iterations on gesture drawings!
I have apparently unpopular opinion, but in the second drawing I definitely like gesture 4 the most - thou it is my personal impression - - I can feel there the same inward motion the model portrayed. It evokes the same feeling of insecurity, and I think this is due to the way the hand and the upper back work there.
But that's just me guessing, so feel free to ignore me ;)
The challenge looks awesome, maybe one day i will give it a shot as well!
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Week 27: continued with the gesture drawings, which i did digitally. Also continued with Stan's beginner course with some line drawing assignments (the hand, penguins and the robot girl-thing). For fun i drew some stylized/ cartoonized people from references i've found on Pinterest.
1yr
How long gesture drawings took you?
On the kneeling guy, I feel the neck is a bit misplaced, and the centerline of the body goes to its left side, not to the centre, also the head fills a bit big.
Very clean lines - you are drawing so cleanly (that'd be super impressive), or it was cleaned up?
PS. I don't know why, but I didn't get notifications for your posts lately :(
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