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Geert-Jan
Week 43: i've finished the 100 hands challenge!
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prymitywizm
Congrats!! I love nr 89 and 99 I can feel the force of the gesture
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Rebecca Shay
You gotta watch out for that! I'm prone to hand/wrist/shoulder injuries, but I've never felt "stiffness" in the forearm. You probably need to take a day or two break, and make sure you take frequent breaks during drawing, like every half an hour to an hour. Set an alarm for it. Where in the forearm are you feeling? What's the posture when you draw, like do you raise your arm to draw on the easel, or flat on your desk? Do you also use a lot of mouse or type a lot in addition to drawing? Sometimes it's the mouse or keyboard that breaks the camel's back. Look up "forearm pain physical therapy" and find exercises that you feel right for your condition.
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prymitywizm
Thanks, I googled some stretches and those helped a bit. I will probably go to my physio and let her have a look ai it.
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Demetrio Cran
Hi! I know people with problems with that too. You might find this useful: Book: Conquering carpal tunnel syndrome and other repetitive strain injuries: a self-care program (1996) by Sharon Butler (You might find page 36 interesting) and Brandon Dayton YouTube Channel: Managing Hand Pain for Artists.
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prymitywizm
Thanks a mill! <3 I will check it out!
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Geert-Jan
Week 41: decided to start with anatomy III: the arms which includes the 100 hands challenge. So i'm doing both realistic hands and cartoon hands. As a warm-up i do gesture drawings digitally.
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prymitywizm
Yay, we are on the same unit! Are you drawing with all the steps recommended by Stan? I mean - gesture -> structure -> lines > details? I find it hard to establish the right proportion when I start with gesture, TBH I was surprised to learn that I actually like drawing hands. Don't get me wrong I suck at it, but I also feel that is OK, because it is honestly hard subject to draw. ps. I'm curious what you will think of rotating heads challenge - I found it extremely difficult.
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prymitywizm
Hi everyone, recently I feel stiffness in my forearm, and I suspect it is due to drawing much more in recent months. Do you have any favorite stretches or exercises that help you stay injury free?
Geert-Jan
Week 38: i've combined the drawabox approach of drawing animals with Stan's Structure Basics – Making Things Look 3D lesson. (the last one suggested by @Liandro ) Drawing animals with 3d shapes, but i've used a fineliner and ink to draw them. For the fun side, i did an Aaron Blaise study of this coyote.
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prymitywizm
Omg that coyote 😍 sooooo good. Hot long it took?
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Sita Rabeling
This morning’s work; forearm assignment 5.
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prymitywizm
thank you so much for doing those drawings with muscle names, it helps so much!
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Geert-Jan
week 35: Start of a new unit. I've decided to continue with the drawabox.com exercises. First i will be finishing the 250 cylinder challenge, which i've previously started. It is still a very hard challenge to draw these boxes and cylinders with a pen free hand. For the fun side i cartoonized a bunch of people from reference. I've tried to add some shadows and highlights from imagination, but it doesnt seem quite right? Maybe someone has some good tips on that?
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prymitywizm
oh my the cylinders challenge, I am not a fan, but you are doing great! I know it is conscious style choice, but maybe you can try varying limelight in those caricatures? I remember it worked very well in your previous posts,
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kotka
The longer I study proportions, the more my brain wants to mess things up! On the right is a drawing from memory and it looks more heroic than the referenced midgets on the left. The female figure especially, since I tried drawing her without the heels. While I like the heroic proportions, I disliked Loomis's method the most. The upper limbs and hands are still the hardest to nail. I think that I will search for a method that mixes both Richer and Hale's logic.
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prymitywizm
i just want to applaud you for drawing a female figure without the heels - I always thought it is such bullshit to measure a it e with heels... I mean, I understand where it is coming from - commercial work - but also... Loomis, with all my love, wtf, man.
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Geert-Jan
Week 32: The second week of my own inking unit. This week i've worked mostly digital. I've explored different inking brushes in procreate. Some of the brushes are standard brushes that can be found in procreate, but in the past i've also purchased a comic brush pack from Ittai Manero which i also used. This week another lesson was published in Stan's beginner course about line-weight, which would fit perfectly in this learning unit. Also continued reading in the "the art of comic book inking"  book.
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prymitywizm
Omg I love the second rhino <3. It is so great you are really exploring different approaches
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Geert-Jan
Week 29: continued with gesture drawings and the proko basics course. For fun drawing, i discovered the "reddit gets drawn" community https://www.reddit.com/r/redditgetsdrawn/ where i tried to cartoonize some people :). Also had some great feedback from different people in this topic. For the upcoming week i will continue gesture drawing.
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prymitywizm
I love the fact you are doing iterations on gesture drawings! I have apparently unpopular opinion, but in the second drawing I definitely like gesture 4 the most - thou it is my personal impression - - I can feel there the same inward motion the model portrayed. It evokes the same feeling of insecurity, and I think this is due to the way the hand and the upper back work there. But that's just me guessing, so feel free to ignore me ;) The challenge looks awesome, maybe one day i will give it a shot as well!
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Geert-Jan
Week 27: continued with the gesture drawings, which i did digitally. Also continued with Stan's beginner course with some line drawing assignments (the hand, penguins and the robot girl-thing). For fun i drew some stylized/ cartoonized people from references i've found on Pinterest.
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prymitywizm
How long gesture drawings took you? On the kneeling guy, I feel the neck is a bit misplaced, and the centerline of the body goes to its left side, not to the centre, also the head fills a bit big. Very clean lines - you are drawing so cleanly (that'd be super impressive), or it was cleaned up? PS. I don't know why, but I didn't get notifications for your posts lately :(
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deeplava
I feel like I'm gonna cry because no matter how much I draw them my gestures don't seem to improve at all. I can't get anything close to what others are able to do unless I'm trying to copy their drawings specifically. I don't understand how to visualize people in my head maybe? I'm embarrassed to even write this comment, but I so badly want to improve.
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prymitywizm
First of all - we have all been there or are there with you! So no worries and for sure don't feel embarrassed. Those quick poses are not easy! I'd say that 30-second ones are the hardest. I am struggling with them as well, but I can tell you what helped me a bit, maybe it will help you too - I am focusing on two things only - an angle between the pelvis and the torso and the angle between the torso and the head. Hands and legs are way less important (I recommend Love Life drawing video about this you can find it on YouTube) - After a finished session of quick catches ( around 20 minutes) I go through them slowly and try to analyse them, but not focusing on what is wrong but on what I could do differently to make it look better. Then I try to test this idea, and just redraw the thing or if I am feeling last (almost always) draw on top of the drawing. If it looks better - awesome. I note down what I learned. If I have no idea how to fix my drawing - I try not to get upset - some poses are just hard and I am on the beginning on a journey, some day I will get there. - A bit of cheating, but I am not doing 30 sec. at all i do 1 minute - cause its more beginner-friendly while still requiring you to work fast and not overthink
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funnybunny
Hello! These are my 2 minute figure drawings, including the references. Can I get a critique please?
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prymitywizm
Hi, nicely done! This is a super hard exercise in the begging, so yeah well done. Try focusing more on the angle between a ribcage and a pelvis. This is one of the most important relationships in the whole body. Maybe try drawing the bottom line of the ribcage first (one that would connect the two last ribs) and the top of the pelvis second. Try to work on the torso from there. The created angle will tell you where should you include pinch and where stretch - and including those makes the pose much more dynamic. Also try avoiding "hairy" lines (guessing where the line should be by placing it and then correcting it by placing the next one next to it and then the next one etc.) Force yourself instead to ghost every line you want to place before putting it on paper. It's not so much about the qualities of those drawing, but more about building a good habit and ditching a bad one.
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Geert-Jan
Week 20: second week of the unit. Bit of a hectic week, couldn't draw as much as i wanted to. But i've continued with the movie scene challenge and watched some theory videos about composition. For the upcoming 3 weeks I will be on vacation, so i won't be working on the curriculum. I will bring a sketschbook with me on vacation, so i might post some sketches for fun :). Some thing else that i've encoutered this week: a new video from Scyra, where he discusses that you shouldn't practice but do projects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rlF-qE-vsM. It has got me thinking. I do think that i want to continue practicing the way i do now, but maybe I should start a side project. To be continued.
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prymitywizm
I watch the video (thanks for link!) and I agree with it, but just to some extent. I am all for projects - I think it is much better motivation than very abstract "improving", BUT I also think the best way is to mix a project with a roadmap like the art curriculum. My main reason is: You don't know what you don't know. Sometimes (probably mostly when you are a beginner) something about drawing just feels off - and you have no idea why. If you do not know what contributes to "good" drawing, it is much harder to figure out what is wrong. Think about values - if you don't know they are super important, it is hard to realize on your own that they are the issue. on the other hand I agree that there is no point in learning i.e. drawing vehicles unless you really need to for a project if you are not interested in them (yeah I am probably skipping that draw a box lesson). And when we talk about DaB - the challenges on the website are super boring, and hype killing BUT as long as I feel I am learning something from it - IMHO its with it. I.e. 250 boxes helped me to control my lines better and trained me to ghost lines - I liked that, so even I didn't enjoy the challenge, I felt I am getting something of it. With 250 cylinders I don't have that feeling so I am skipping it at least for now - now I am just repeating same mistakes, struggling and hating the experience so it doesn't make sense for me. I think its just too hard for me at this point.
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Geert-Jan
Week 18: The last week of this unit. I've continued the 250 cylinder challenge, and i'm 200 cylinders in. i could use some feedback on these. obvious they are not correct. But i'm wondering how you would get a better result. Drawabox states that you should eyeball the boxes and make an educated guess for the converging lines. Also continued lesson 4 and created a bunch of studies of insects. To reward myself for the work of the last weeks, i've bought myself some nice colored pencils. I've drawn attached frog with them ;)
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prymitywizm
How the hell your insects have such readable lines? Tablet?
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prymitywizm
I am probably a horrible person right now, but I am happy that I am not the only one for whom 200 cylinders is a hellish challenge 😅 What helped me with boxes a bit was to draw a box and then make a second one almost the same, just with one variable changed - that way I could see how this one particular change affects the rest - I think some things fell into place after that + the challenge is less boring this way. Ps. I am starting perspective II next week, but I plan also to finish those hellish cylinders before that unite challenge.
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Gian Amir Calibuso
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prymitywizm
Its awesome. You clearly understand what you are doing. I love the way you are attaching an arm to a torso - this is for me the hardest part of mannequinization and I couldnt make it look not-wonky. I am sooo stealing this idea
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Geert-Jan
week 15: second unit of the second term. officially i should be working on drawabox lessons 4-7, but i haven't done lesson 3 yet, so i'll be working on that first. I'm also working on the 250 cilinder challenge. For this week i did the arrows, leaves and branches exercises. I also drew the first 65 cilinders, and dit a bit of a longer portrait drawing for fun in my new strathmore toned sketchbook. I've found the cilinder challenge very challenging, not sure how to check if i'm doiing it right. Anybody got any tips for that?
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prymitywizm
I find the cylinders challenge much harder than the box one, mainly because of checking. I am not sure if I am finding my minor axis right correctly. I THINK (I am not sure though - maybe someone will correct me) we should find the widest part of the ellipse and check if it is perpendicular to the major axis - I think it aligns with what @Danet said, but again I feel a bit lost about it. I am curious how you will feel about the second part of the challenge - drawing ellipses within a box - I'll be honest I had my crisis there, and I quit, but seeing you going strong motivates me to go back, so thanks for that! :)
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Henrique Romão Saito
I really recommend Draw a box site is very complete in the topic and the Scott Robertson's book ''How to Drawn''
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prymitywizm
Thanks! I started draw a box, I have a love-hate relationship with it - love the site hate my luck of ability to draw "a simple box".
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Danet
This is a great question. I think what you want to learn Is how to draw primitives from any angle. Most perspective books and courses focus on the technical part of drawing 1,2 and 3 point which is great for drawing buildings, and cars, but useless for figure drawing. Here’s a video that might help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOIu5EKYsNA&list=PLJzu3mFdwCxDP3_ekqj8qK8kcQqKfvzTx&index=60 I would Also recommend just drawing several sheets of cubes turning in space and getting feedback. I’ll be happy to take a look at them. Good luck!
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prymitywizm
Thanks!
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