Thanks for the invented 3d demo drawing from orthos views.

Hey guys, this is a practice I did a while back. I used seven values, including the white of the paper. However, I can't create that depth effect or the fidelity of the image without it looking too saturated or too dull. Should I use charcoal, or is it just my lack of skill with values? I'm thinking about doing a portrait, but I don't want it to still look like a drawing. You know what I mean? I'd like to achieve a depth effect and a shape that's fairly faithful to the reference image. I hope someone can help me. It's worth noting that I blurred the values. Yes, I know it's cheating a bit. Blessings to your families and to you.

I look forward to these animations, brilliant Marshall, thanks. :)

Marshall, thanks for the critique. I did print off all 12 box grids and then quickly realised I was in a spiders web of lines, without a clear understanding of the grids and their construction with respect to VP's and Horizon lines. I look forward to the lessons ahead that you mention.

Amazing explanation and animation. Your laugh was somewhat disturbing, throughout, though! Was Stan hurt during the stunts, in making this animation? I was surprised you put water in the pool! Thanks :)

Marshall thanks for sharing the Kim Jung Gi interview on Boxes with us. He proved you don't always need to think outside the box to be a master. I believe he was unique in his ability to manipulate and imagine all his artwork detail in the manner he did. To think it all started with boxes.

I've been struggling with the grids. I focused on the box grids as I found they seemed to distort the boxes. I tried to use the grids to draw the 9 Basic Positions but all went to mush so I used the excellent image shown during the Tipped Arrows Critique as a reference. I drew the nine boxes out of perspective, and then altered them into perspective. There was a lot of erasing going on but I wonder if this can be drawn on a grid and which of the 12 grids would it be any other suggestions would be great, my freehand drawing is a touch messy, I'd like to understand how to make it look better proportion wise. It reminded me to

Thanks for these amazing critiques and drawings. :)

Marshall, thanks for sharing and explaining the valuable XYZ Critiques. :)