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Hi everyone, here's my attempt. Any comments welcome
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@drusk
Everyone here has good suggestions. I do something to check to see how I did with the lay in. I make a copy of the original and draw an outline of the face, eyes mouth and nose. Then do the same to my drawing. Try to size them approximately the same and then compare. The outlines make it very easy to see how different my drawing is from the reference. Seeing what is wrong is the hardest part because sometimes everything is a little off. I find if I can get the lay in right, rendering is easy and usually successful.
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@pasqualed
sorry I forgot to attach the gesture and the mannequin I'll post them here because it won't let me edit thanks again for the feedback
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@drusk
First, thanks for being brave and posting here, especially when drawing from imagination. I don't know if I would be ready to do that myself. I am not an expert here at drawing the anatomy from reference or imagination, but here are my thoughts. I will also refer to your other post as well with the finished drawing. To begin with, your first sketch wasn't too bad for a basic sketch from imagination. You skipped hands and feet because I am guessing you are not confident with those yet. But as you refined the drawing, you pushed the pose further and further until you started to miss the perspective and the anatomy started to look off. My first bit of advice is to try and get in the pose you are trying to draw. I've even take a selfie to see how it looks when I am trying to do this. I think you will find you can't get into the pose you are trying to draw in the final picture. The body doesn't move that way. You could almost copy that first sketch however. As you refined your drawing, the right hip went way up while the legs basically stayed the same. The angle of the calf and heel is out of alignment with the thigh on the left and the whole leg out of alignment with the right glute. As you move up into the torso, there is an extreme twist and you need to make sure that twist is clearly shown. Right now I think the first sketch conveys that twist better than the final which would have an strong pinch on the side in order to twist that way. The difficulty here as described by Stan and other artists here is adding structure to your gesture without losing the gesture. I think your initial gesture had promise and then you tried to refine it and then some perspective and anatomy issues crept in. Try going back to that initial sketch and see if you can keep that gesture and refine the drawing from there. I'm new to this too however, so these are just observations. Other people may have different thoughts.
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@pmak22
Been a while posting, though was still practicing. These are two studies I worked on in the past 2 months. The women from the back is the one I worked on right after I worked on the reference for this assignment. I was really trying to figure things out with core shadows and some of the definition of back muscles. At some point I had to step away and call it even though I could have fixed a great many things. I also didn't really attempt to render the objects, which I'm cool with because that's not the point. The man from the front I just finished tonight. I feel like its a good deal of an improvement. I can see a dozen of things I'd do differently, like the face proportions are off, the hands are questionable, ect, but I'm really proud of what I was able to finish. I'm hoping to do at least 1 finished study a month for the rest of the year, but should start thinking about which aspect I want to focus in on to improve. Welcome to any feedback.
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@drusk
Great job. I do have a few observations. But first I should say that I think you are further along with your skills than I am so this is not a critique, just observations. I will focus on the female model drawing. I feel like you captured the gesture and proportions of your reference really well. There does appear to be a slight discrepancy along the right of the neck, but this is only noticeable because the rest of the figure is done so well. The main observation is that your half tones and shadows are very close together. For example, the right glute highlight and the left glute have the same tone but in the reference they are quite a bit different. The right arm also has very light tones and highlights going down the arm while the reference photo is darker. The affect on me as a viewer is that the lighting seems very bright and intense. There is also a really hard edge along the right glute between it and the leg. The only thing I will say regarding anatomy is that you took a lot of time to emphasize the anatomy in the torso but not in the leg so visually there is almost split between the detail of the upper and lower half of the drawing. The reference photo sort has this playing out too so I see how you got there. Again, this is not a critique because that may be exactly what you wanted. Overall, you did a great job and I am inspired to go do some more on my own. Thanks for sharing.
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Marco Sordi
2023/8/14. Good morning everybody. Here's my latest work (pencils and pure graphite on Kent paper, 21 x 29.7 cm). Thanks for your comment or critique. Have a good week.
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@drusk
Looking back on the reference (I saw that you posted it earlier), I think you did a very good job matching it. Reading what Peter wrote is interesting because I feel like this is where artists can make decisions about the final piece. I was wondering what your thoughts are on what he wrote. I'm personally at the stage where doing as well as you did on this would make me super happy. But I was wondering if what peter had to say will influence what you do in the future. Thoughtful critiques are fascinating to read.
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@drusk
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My final anatomy course assignment. I tried to do some on my own and then stop and watch Stan for a while to see if I was on track. It took a few days working a couple of hours each day. It was a first for me with stretching and toning the paper. I wish there were more videos like this because it was very informative. Comments welcome.
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@drusk
More practice. I think it is closer, but I still need work on my faces.
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Marco Sordi
023/7/15. Good morning everybody. 30 mins portrait for my daily warming up exercise today. Thanks and have a good week end.
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@drusk
Hi Marco, I really like your stuff. So I was looking at your piece here and noticed that you are blocking out the face a little different than the loomis method. I think I am seeing lines blocking in the brow width and angle and then the back of the ear. What else are you doing?
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@drusk
I would double check your proportions. I am struggling with that too so I understand. If you take a ruler to the original photo and look at the head size compared to the rest of the body and then look at your drawing, I think you will see what I am talking about. Drawing the too big or too small is very common. I've done both multiple times.
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Mike Karcz
Would love some insight. In the red circle, those two bulges: Am I looking at the Teres Major being split in two by the Lat, or is that the Teres Major and the Serratus?
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@drusk
Don't quote me, but I think you are looking at the Teres Major and the Teres minor
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@drusk
I finished the anatomy course and now I'm back getting some mileage in for practice. I'm trying just focus on process so I am just using charcoal pencil, charcoal powder and newsprint. Critiques welcome.
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Nikita Thakur
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@drusk
Beginner here, so I could be wrong. I think you are leaving too much of the original sphere. Especially on the side away from the viewer. I think you are trying to compensate with some contour line of the profile but it is too soon to do that. Be careful about how much you slice off Also watch the angle of the head. The last one looks pretty good, but the others look a little off. I believe the strength of the Loomis head is establishing the head angle from any angle. Focus on that in the beginning.
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Dirtynka Reee
Hello, i am new here :) Started to watch this course yesterday and trying to practice simple gestures. I am still bit new into learning how to draw i have around month behind me with tablet, before i never focused on how to draw properly, i just copied pictures i liked. Now i am trying to learn how to stand on my own feets in art. This is my work from today, i will be glad to hear some feedbacks. I put 2 minutes limit on each gesture.
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@drusk
Gesture drawing is often introduced as a beginner exercise, but in truth it is quite difficult to do well. Keep working on it. You are getting a sense of the pose, but the drawings appear flat. Keep looking at some of the examples sent in by people here to get a sense what to do. You will start to see how the structure and form of the body can be simply expressed. Gesture drawing is something you can do on the first day of your art journey and in year 20. There is always something to learn. Unfortunately I am not good enough myself to offer specific critique on your work.
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@drusk
A lot to unpack here. First, I think Stan would say, "practice makes better" there is no perfect. Thinking that something has to be "perfect" is definitely stressful because you can never achieve it. Second, good gesture drawings look simple and simple is hard. Really hard. I think art instructors start with gesture not because it is the easiest first step but because they are introducing something you can practice for the rest of your life. You will not "master" gesture before you should move to more finished products. Just keep going back to it. The time limit stressed me out at first too. Ignore it or just give yourself more time and then slowly speed up. Just make sure you don't fill the time with unnecessary detail, but focus on the gesture and try to get that right. You may also think you are not making progress, that is normal too. Give yourself credit for your little successes. You are probably doing better than you think. I like to keep all of my practice sheets and look back at them at the end of the week. I'm not good at this yet, so most of what I see is not great, often bad. But I give myself credit for the little things I did well. Maybe the arm is correct or the curve of the spine captures the gesture. Seeing these little successes motivates me to keep practicing. Good luck.
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@drusk
My attempt on Nikolai. Critique welcome. I have my own list of issues, but would like to compare notes. 9x12 inch charcoal pencil on newsprint. Please excuse the two creases in the paper, happened during clean up.
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@drusk
Does Proko have a .stl file for their Loomis head model?
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@drusk
I really have enjoyed the class so far. Stan talks about imagining the Loomis head as he tries to draw the head more intuitively. I'm wondering, for those of us who don't have it down so well yet, can we fade the use of the Loomis head? I was thinking about whether you could just stop drawing the full structure step by step? If the steps are: ball, side planes, brow angle, thirds, centerline, jawline. What is the easiest to fade first? What would be the last thing?
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@drusk
First attempt at figure drawing. I used newsprint and I didn't have charcoal powder so there are some obvious differences there. Any critique is welcome as long as you understand that I have an extremely delicate ego that can be crushed with the slightest bit of negativity. (Joking!)
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@drusk
Complete beginner here, so please don't put too much weight on my opinion. I think you were going for disturbing H P Lovecraft-ish creatures here, and I think you succeeded there. They are very creepy looking. Good job. I don't know enough anatomy to have an informed opinion, but I have some impressions. In the first picture, the attachment area of the tentacle heads and the body could be smoother. Also the weight of figure falls on the slug body and you don't see it squished down flatter. I also feel it could come forward a bit to balance the weight of the ball out better. The second picture is nice. I think it is flying, so I feel like the wings could be spread out more as if in flight. But you may have been thinking of a different action, such as landing. The third picture is cool. I like the twist in the body which really shows off the worm like nature. I like the position of the back rear leg, but the front leg's position in the background is a little unclear. Given the shape of the one in the foreground, would you be able to see more of the one in the background? What if it was raised in a striking position. Please take whatever helps you from my reply and throw the rest away.
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@sadbonez
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These are some creature designs I did a while back and I was wondif there was any advice I could get to make them better
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@drusk
Complete beginner here, so please don't put too much weight on my opinion. I think you were going for disturbing H P Lovecraft-ish creatures here, and I think you succeeded there. They are very creepy looking. Good job. I don't know enough anatomy to have an informed opinion, but I have some impressions. In the first picture, the attachment area of the tentacle heads and the body could be smoother. Also the weight of figure falls on the slug body and you don't see it squished down flatter. I also feel it could come forward a bit to balance the weight of the ball out better. The second picture is nice. I think it is flying, so I feel like the wings could be spread out more as if in flight. But you may have been thinking of a different action, such as landing. The third picture is cool. I like the twist in the body which really shows off the worm like nature. I like the position of the back rear leg, but the front leg's position in the background is a little unclear. Given the shape of the one in the foreground, would you be able to see more of the one in the background? What if it was raised in a striking position. Please take whatever helps you from my reply and throw the rest away.
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