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Stan Prokopenko
We've got some news regarding the digital painting course. First off, the not-so-great part - Jon Neimeister won't be able to wrap up the remaining lessons of the course. We know many of you have enjoyed his insights and teaching style, and it's a bummer not to have him finish up the course. However, life throws curveballs, and we're committed to delivering the quality education you signed up for. The good news - we've put together a team of digital painting instructors to take over and finish this course. We selected artists that specialize in each remaining topic. It will move much faster since multiple artists will be working on videos at the same time. Producing this course is at the top of our priorities right now. Stay tuned for more updates about Jon's replacements, and as always, we're here if you have any questions or need a hand with anything.We appreciate your patience and understanding, Stan and the Proko Team
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it would be nice if they added subtitles ,like in other proko courses, since they are updating it. For those who are not native speakers of English it would be an extra help. (at least have English subtitles)
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Hi everyone, I would like some feedback from the more experienced ones on these 1 minute and 2 minute gesture workouts after my last post. I tried to implement some advice you gave me previously, in particular from @Steve Lenze (whom I thank enormously) and I tried to make them more dynamic and less rigid but I feel that more can be done. Now apart from the proportions and anatomy which they believe are not exact, in particular I would like to know if the rhythm and flow of the pose can be perceived in the gesture. Sometimes I find it difficult to perceive it in standing poses. I would also appreciate advice on how to push the pose more without losing proportions. Thank you all for your time.
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Steve Lenze
Hey pasqualed, The biggest thing I see is that this pose is pretty impossible. There is no way someone can twist their body that much. I'm not sure what your concept for this pose is, that would help determine what you are trying to do. But, going off the pose you have, I did a quick sketch to show you a way to make the pose more believable and dynamic, I hope it helps :)
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yes actually it was just what I had in mind in particular the small one below, but it didn't come out like this hahaha. Sometimes what I draw is never as accurate as I imagine it and I have to say this is a bit frustrating. Thanks a lot for the correction if you have any other advice on this I would be very grateful.
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sorry I forgot to attach the gesture and the mannequin I'll post them here because it won't let me edit thanks again for the feedback
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@imshenanigans
Hi pasqualed. I am far from an “expert” at drawing, but I may be able to offer some help whilst you wait for advice from a more experienced artist. Yep, drawing from imagination is really hard! I wish I could just put pen to paper and smash out a figure from imagination in 10 or so minutes, but because you and I are not at that level yet, we should try to construct our figures with simple shapes before going into anatomical detail. I think this may have contributed to why your drawing has some “errors”. For example, your torso is rotated at a very severe angle compared to your hips. It looks like a whole 90-degree rotation compared to the hips, and this seems a bit too strong. By rotating your torso clockwise a bit it might look more natural (shown on image 1) The legs look a little wonky, but they are not too bad. I think the angle of the front foot is too inwards (image 2). As far as I know, the feet approximately follow the angle of the thigh. Also, the right leg seems to be a bit too inwards compared to the centre line of the hips. It should ideally be closer or on the other side of the hips’ centre line (image 3) Apart from those points, this is a good effort. I really like the face and some of the lines you have used to indicate anatomy, such as the indication of the collarbones. To help with future drawings, I recommend first drawing a simple mannequin (I like to use Andrew Loomis’ mannequin). This will help to put things in the somewhat “correct” place before you commit to the rest of the drawing. Good luck, - imshenanigans
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sorry my mistake that I didn't post them together with the final result but before this I made a drawing of the gesture and then the mannequin anyway thanks for the advice now I will post them together with the final result
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hi all guys I don't know if this is the right section sorry if I'm wrong, I made this drawing to practice drawing from my imagination without using references, and I must say it's quite difficult, apart from the anatomy I'm studying I feel that there are errors especially in the part of the pelvis and legs, someone expert could help me understand and correct these errors thank you very much to all
Steve Lenze
Doing quick sketch with a pen is something I do sometimes, it forces me to be very deliberate with my marks and really focus on what I'm seeing. Then when I go back to using charcoal, I bring that focus with me. So, I suggest you do both. Look at artist like Steve Huston and Glen Vilppu, they do figure work in pen all the time. By the way, your gesture drawings look pretty good :)
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A thousand thanks!!! Yes, I've already done it, Steve Huston and Glenn Vilpuu, the latter in particular inspired me a lot, I really like his way of drawing about Glenn Vilpuu. In fact, watching their videos gave me the idea of ​​practicing with the pen too, and just like you said it has that effect on me too, it forces me to be very thoughtful with the signs when I use the pen and now that I think about it actually then when I come back with the pencil I seem much more careful with the marks and the rhythm, so I will do so I will continue to use both methods as you suggest. A thousand thanks!!!
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Thank you so much!!!
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Hi everyone I would like some advice, recently to practice with the gesture I'm using the gel pen just to get out of my comfort zone, because I've noticed that at least for me it's much more difficult, in fact I also did it to increase the difficulty of the practice. I've always used a pencil before. It must be said that I still have a long way to go, it is only a month and a half since I started practicing the gesture, now I wanted to ask you, do I do well to get out of my comfort zone and experiment with other things to practice and thus increase the difficulty or better stay with the pencil and continue like this. I don't know if I explained myself well, sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker, just to be clear, I wanted to use a sort of method that uses drawabox, which makes you use the fineliner instead of the pencil, because you feel more confident with the pencil. Here I attach two exercises gesture of 1 minute with pencil and pen thanks to all for availability!!!!
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hi all, i'm practicing with the robo bean. I drew this angle but I don't understand the torso if I did it right, it seems to me that there is something wrong but I don't understand what, the twists are a bit difficult for me, can you help me understand? A thousand thanks
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Steve Lenze
Okay, so I took a couple of your drawings and did a quick sketch to show you how you should be thinking about your gesture drawings. What you have Isn't really bad, the poses are pretty recognizable, but they are stiff because you are not integrating the gesture through the whole pose and limbs. I hope the sketch helps :)
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thank you very much for your correction, the sketch is of great help to me. Thanks again
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I would like some help to understand my mistakes
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Victor Gerometta
Hi there! Have you tried a different approach? For instance, from time to time, I try to focus on a specific, whether its loose-gesture drawing or drawing the force of the pose, kinda like the flow. Later on, I try to combine both because I feel I get different information from these options and try to see what works best. Also, because when adding structure to your sketch, sometimes you loose the dynamic aspect of it so I´m negotiating in-between, so to speak. Best
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@pasqualed
thanks for your reply i will try this approach too
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@pasqualed
Hi all guys it is a real pleasure for me to be part of this community. I wanted help from someone experienced, here are 1, 2 minute gestural drawings and some are 5 minutes where I focused a little more on the details, while in the 1 and 2 minute ones I tried to capture only the gesture. I marked the minutes on each drawing. I feel something is wrong but I can't figure out what can anyone help me figure out what? thanks a lot to everyone.
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