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added comment inSolving Perspective Problems with the Picture Plane
Earlier attempts to project an irregular figure failed, but I hope I 'got' it now... Phew!
I traced the drawing digitally to see it all the lines better.
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Btw got some tips for this from @maggieb, so that was very helpful!
Hope I’m still following 🤓 despite having less time, focus at the moment.
Great job exploring shapes that are not simple rectangles! Angles other than 90 degrees and sides that are not parallel make these interesting examples.
I think you need to make a small adjustment in how you apply the technique in order for this to work. All lines that go to a common vanishing point are parallel. In Marshall's example, he used a rectangle which has two sets of parallel sides and thus he required two vanishing points.
In your first example, the top view shows that you don't have any parallel edges, all four edges extend at different angles to the picture plane. This means that the lines through the edges in your perspective projection must each go to a _different_ vanishing point. You can either use four different vanishing points (one for each edge angle, determined just as you did for the red and blue edges) or you can put your shape in a rectangle (or a parallelogram), use the edges of the rectangle to place two vanishing points and then determine the position of your shape inside the rectangle (e.g. by using a grid approach within the rectangle). The same is true for your pentagon shape. None of the edges are parallel so you either need five vanishing points or you need to place the pentagon in a rectangle.
Aside: The lines that go through a single vanishing point only intersect at that vanishing point. The vanishing point is on the horizon which is very, very far away and can be thought of as at infinity. Thus the lines never really intersect which means, by definition, they are parallel. Exceptions to this would be the horizon line and a vertical line through the VP, both of which would be in the zone of distortion so I think we can ignore them.
Beautiful!
Thank you for the kind words! I also really enjoyed experimenting with the two-color combination.
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This doesn’t look nice as it’s my first attempt at this kind of object, but I learned so much. By 1 minute I could visualize the attachment points at the bottom moving in a circle and how the front are facing us but the back ones are turned away. I wish the output looked a little nicer but I’m still glad I chose the chandelier because it did something weird to my brain XD
Not nice??? This looks great!! 👏🏼
(and thanks for the warm welcome in the Yt chat 🧸)
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ummm, I did it again. Is it better? Yes, is this what I am satisfied with? No, do I still wanna kill myself? Yes, and am I gonna try again? Yes but not recently I feel burnt out already.
here’s my own critique:
1) I learned about changing shape design in between object/subject which I was unaware of, first time.
2) I was patient, calm and didn’t had any thoughts to kill myself (atleast while doing this)
what I think should improve:-
I was overly dependent on video than first time, i need to learn edges and shifting the gradient in planes. I believe I need to learn adapting shape design in tonal studies which I have never done before, same with line quality, perspective and forms. I can always do the contour for shapes but never in between shapes which are complex to me right now.
how I am gonna do this:-
by not touching my sketchbook for a week, I tried my best but this was overwhelming and a bit frustrating. I will focus on painting so I don’t forget tonal values but I want a bit rest just a bit.
I like it. You're on your way!
For me, leaving out details in level 1 is very hard.
This here looks good!
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It’s a bit like playing chess, be aware of all the moves.
I wanted to keep it simple enough to find out what happens when you move the horizon line. Maybe I don’t get it?
And now I see some mistakes (the green and the blue block).
Next time I'll use references.
Hey again!
As I mentioned in my previous message, I just finished drawing these two scenes. For each one, I started with a reference photo, reconstructed it in perspective, and then I redrew the same scene from a different point of view 😁
The first one took me way longer than the second, as you can imagine… 😅
But I really loved this exercise, and I’ll definitely do it several more times!
Hey Marshall,
I think I took your sentence, "30 times and you'll get it, 50 times and you'll never forget," a little too seriously... 😂
After 7 hours and 30 minutes of intensive practice spread over a bit more than two weeks, I've created these 150 little scenes, exploring various angles and points of view.
Now, I feel like I can instinctively locate the horizon line and angles without even thinking—it’s become second nature! 😅
The first 50 were 5-minute studies, the next 50 took 3 minutes each, and the last 50 just 1 minute each.
Next up, I'll try drawing the same scene from different points of view. 👍🏻
It was a challenging yet incredibly rewarding experience. I truly feel the benefits of the effort deep down. Thanks a lot, Marshall!
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Thank you for this experience. Didn’t think I would have the patience to finish it. Or would be able to at all. Think I made a little step. 🐥
The photo accentuates the blacks too much though. The second I took from a distance and looks more like the blacks it has.
