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23d
Hi
I did the lessons up to lesson 6 with official critiques of draw a box.
Btw I didn't go to art school so I can't really tell you if they go over such things or not. But well I do have my share of experience with draw a box.
Right now I'm finding exercises and much more to help me studie, because I had the same problem with draw a box as you have. I don't recommend just to try to tough it out, but to take your time with it and maybe take breaks from it if you need it.
I would recommend you to go on marshall vandruffs website and buy his old perspective course. It is old....really old and it shows in the video quality but still a treasure trove of knowlege. As for exercises well mashall once did a stream....you can find it also on his website and it's a free video. there were 3 exercises that I found really good.
here is the link for his coure: https://marshallart.com/SHOP/all-products/all-videos/1994-perspective-drawing-series/
and here is the link for the exercises: https://marshallart.com/SHOP/all-products/all-videos/drawing-forum-and-qa-lessons-in-perspective-recorded-webinar/
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2mo
Hey
I think it would be easier helping you if we would know what kind of drawings you want to make.
Draw a Box is quite a hard start and I recommend everybody to do the first two lessons. Having clean lines is really important. If you want you can send me the first two lessons I did draw a box til lesson 6 and had official critiques.
Draw a box covers the topics of penmenship, 3 dimensionality and observation.
I think the first one is quite well done and the first two lessons are awesome exercises. For thr 3 dimensionality part I personaly don't think it is handled great but you might be a person that really gets the lessons there. As for observation well....I'm not a fan of what they did. It's basically just "look closely".
Figure drawing is also a good starting point. Stan has a great cours on it but if you don't want to spend money right now than either watch the yt vids from stan or a great recours is Love life drawing in yt.
Please tell my what kind of drawing/painting you like these are such complex things to learn and can get overwhelming very quickly.
Study formal perspective long enough for it to become intuitive.

vonun
2mo
Hi
What do you mean with formal perspective? I'm sorry if this is a stupid question. I don't know all important terms yet.
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Have you studied 1st and 2nd point perspective yet? Intuitive perspective (I am guessing that means approximating perspetive without calculating it mathematically) comes after you understand the basic principles. If you are just trying to fake the knowledge, it probably won't look right. Marshall Vandruff's perspective video on his website is great. It's old and bad production value but really good. Feel free to send me your art if you want an outside opinion on what to work on
2mo
Hi
I've studied 1,2 and 3 point perspective quite a lot. 1 point is no problem. But 2 and 3 point I struggle with, when the vanishing points are not on my page.
I still prefer drawing traditionally so I always loose track of where the points are. I turn the page so my lines are smoother and due to that my head just really struggles keeping them at the same places in my mind.
I forgot that Marshall had a perspective course on his website. Personaly I don't mind old videos or such. So thanks for recommending it.
Would love to send you some of my work though I don't draw much right now. I'll send you some when I start studying perspective. Thank you for your help.
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2mo
It's funny, but I had originally meant to post here to recommend Draw A Box and how they do the intuitive perspective with boxes (I forget which lesson it was), where you try to draw your lines going toward the vanishing point, but don't use a ruler until you're checking them later. To be honest, that exercise ended up helping me a lot. I'm still a beginner myself, but one other tip I saw someone mention in a youtube video a while ago was to look on Google Street View and find a random place (or just Google Images) and then put the image into a graphics program and try to trace where the perspective lines are for each building or item. (Alternately, I suppose you could print it and do the same.) The person who posted the video said that it really helped them a lot to get a "feel" for perspective. I've been meaning to try it out myself also.
2mo
Hi
Thanks for your response! I remeber the that DaB exercise and it is quite a good one. Though it only really helps with one point perspective.
But the Google Street View one sounds so genius.
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How do you learn intuitive perspective?2mo
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I need some help learning intuitive perspective. I really don't know how to go about it or where to even start learning it.
I did draw a box up to the sixth lesson. With every lesson i grew more frustrated and confused, I asked some in the community but nothing really helped me understand. Now i think it's because of the method they use in DaB.
What kind of exercises would you recommend me? Do you know some good videos?
3mo
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hi!
I have a really hard time understanding the thought process of Stan and need some help please.
I've done every landmark assignment and did one by myself but I just sit there very confused. How do I even start? I tried, like Stan does, drawing in the rough positions of the ribcage and pelvic, with plain squares and after that I'm just at a loss.
I don't understand how stan places the position of the arms. Nor how he goes from these 2-d planes to suddenly placing in the muscles and I've watched these videos over and over again.
I'm sorry I have a really hard time describing what I need help with.
week 37: I've finished the 250 cylinder challenge of drawabox! Also started lesson 5: drawing animals. Included my first attempts. For fun, i've colorized one of my drawings from the inking unit and drew a sea turtle in traditional media (markers, fineliners, white colored pencil). What do you guys think?
4mo
Hi
I see that your lines in the DaB lessons improved quite a lot! I didn't see a wobble or other such things on the last few cylinders. Great job finishing the challenge!
The dogs look really cute. One thing I have to say is that your lines on the dogs look really great. I guess that you don't submit the exercises officially on the DaB webside? I've seen that you do the exercises not exactly as they are discribed in the course so please be aware of that if you do want to submit the officially some day.
I love how the turtle came out. The portrait looks nice as well. One question I have is, well is the right eye supposed to look.....a bit off?
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4mo
Hi
First off I love the pages with multiple characters and objects. How do you come up with so much stuff?
The next thing is. It's really hard to give you feedback when we don't even know what your goal with your art is. What do you want to draw? Do you want to do it professionally or casual? Who are your art parents?
Narrowing it down so people have a much easier time giving feedback is important. There is a thread on it when you go to Community then to Art Lounge. Another way is to listen to the draftsmen podcast episode on it.
There is always so much to say about art. I could tell you a lot of things that are great about your art and things that need some work. But for people getting the feedback it is just too much at once and for people giving it.....well it would take hours giving proper feedback with good resources.
I hope that helps you a lot.
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I'm still new to this art thing myself... So take what I say with a grain of salt. The arm looks about perfect... Actually jealous of your hand drawing capabilities. LOL
The woman picture looks off... I can't quite tell it looks almost too stiff? If that makes sense.
As for the Penguin you actually did a better job than you think... It looks very accurate to the picture reference.
4mo
Thank you so much!
I don't normally draw hands as well as I did there, so you don't have to be jealous of it.
I think I get what you mean about the VR girl. Her pose looks a bit off.....I don't know why or where but she does look weird.
I'm quite inscure about the Penguin so your words reminded me to not be so hard on myself.
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Would love some help - drawing from observation5mo
Hi
I did the exercise to the drawing from observation lesson and would love a critique of it.
I really found it hard to draw the penguin and not making him look weird.
I'm still quite unsure where to post such stuff so it gets seen, so if I'm wrong here please let me know.
Have a great day!
Week 36: i've continued the cylinder challenge of drawabox.com. 245 cylinders in, so i'm almost done! I've also continued the basics course from Stan, where we did master studies where we studied line, which was very fun.
5mo
hi
i love your study on henrich kley and aaron blaise, the lines look like they could have come direcly from them!
i do have one critique point and it is on the cylinders. but first off congrats on getting to the 250th cylinder of the challenge! don't forget to buy the recommended equipment for lesson 6, trust me you'll need or you go crazy when drawing objects.
so now for the critque points, your lines look a bit wobbly on the cylinders. it doesn't look like you go fast enough with your lines, i recommend you to try and find the right speed for you where you have smooth lines that you can control. i know it stinks giving up some control but it will pay off!
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5mo
hi
i don't really know anything about proportion but i think that you should post it in the anatomy community section, i bet a lot of people would have great tutorials and such.
i know it is not what you are looking for in this comment but i still hope it helped.
5mo
Hi i looked into your profile and looked at the other pears and you improved quite a lot. They don't look splotchy in the shading departement anymore, so well done!
One thing that i see is that you could capture the form a bit better. The highlights don't go straight down like on your pear, they slighly bend on the picture which would give your pear more of a 3D feel if you would have caprured that.
Keep it up!
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5mo
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A few more sketches I did from real life observation this time. Much more challenging with in particular difficulties with perspective and proportions. I Tried different techniques. Sometimes with preliminary pencil marks (more attention to composition and perspective), sometimes directly in pen (more focus directly on 2d shapes). 2 completely different exercises.
5mo
They look really good and i really like the shading on the second page. The objects on the first page look really life like.
One thing that i noticed is that the legs on chairs sometimes go in a different perspective than they should, like the most front leg on the third page. There is also the bookcase that looks beautiful but the top row looks a bit off to me and i don't know why.
I hope that helps a bit and keep up the good work.
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CSI Level 2- Skull5mo
Hi
Here are the Skulls (before and after demo).
Would love a critique of the simpification and the line quality of the after demo one.
I struggle with S-curves the most.
I hope the picture quality is good. Let me please know if I could do something about it that would make the picture more readable.
Thanks :D
5mo
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Hello
I would love a critique of this.
I found it quite hard getting the tones down smooth and getting the shape of the pear right.
Thank you to every one that takes a look at my pear.