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Yunus Asiri
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@maresanna
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That's cute. He looks proud of himself, like he's happy with the way he turned out.
@maresanna
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3mo
Hi! Please critique and guide me. I know it’s a lot, but answering even one question would already help me a lot :)
a) Can the *highlight be next to the *dark half tone? In the lemon, one of the three highlights is between the light half tone and the DHT. In my beginner mind, it makes sense that a highlight would only be within an LHT, as a light point would brighten its surroundings.
b) How can I keep the paper clean? I was going to erase around the fruits, but I decided to leave it so it would be easier for you to see and understand the "mess." Do I really need to erase everything after every drawing? I tried using a tissue under my hand, but the paper still got smudged—only now it had the texture of the tissue on top of the graphite smudges.
c) How do I know I’m ready to move on to the next lesson? I drew the pear several times until I realized I wasn’t training my eye anymore; I had memorized the shapes and values from the reference image and was just copying the way I drew previous versions. Worse, I was doing it without really thinking or learning. So, I tried drawing a different fruit, but I struggled to see the value differences as clearly as in the exercise. I thought about drawing multiple fruits, but I don’t like working without a demo, like the one for the pear. If there were more models for this exercise, I could try first and compare later. (That led me to the idea of continuing to study even without clearly seeing the values, knowing there’s a whole section on values much later in the course. But how do I know if I’m ready to move on? I don’t want to rush ahead, but I’m not sure if this ability to see values clearly needs to be well-established now.)
Regarding the drawing itself, it was really fun to work slowly. I like the process of filling and controlling pencil pressure. It’s hard as a beginner, but enjoyable to practice and improve.
My main issue was *where* and *with what value* to fill. I spent six 1.5-hour sessions (9 hours total) working on this—so I was serious about taking my time. While the time was great for focusing on precision, I also had plenty of room to overthink. I erased and altered some shapes repeatedly. I got stuck trying to understand what I was seeing, especially since I was seeing a lot, but the idea of *simplifying* shapes left me even more confused about "what should I choose to put on paper?"
- The shadow seems wrong to me. I don’t know if I distributed the values correctly, as there wasn’t much left after I used almost only in the overlapping shadows.
- The orange’s dark accent looks messy. I struggled a lot with simplifying it. Did I do it wrong?
- The rectangles on top of the orange: was I right to include them? They don’t seem to say much about the fruit’s form.
Thank you in advance for any guidance!
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3mo
This is a great Proko tool to help you get used to seeing values. You don't want to rely on it, but it can be a good way to test your theories: https://www.proko.com/values
I would say that highlight next to the dark half tone is a result of the specularity of the skin of the lemon. Perhaps if the skin didn't reflect so much light you wouldn't see it there (if the lemon were made of rubber, for example).
In terms of when to move on, if you find yourself in auto-pilot and not learning, it might be a good idea to come back to it and try something else in the meantime. Could be you feeling burnt-out, so try to mitigate that as much as possible. Otherwise, when you start getting consistent results is when you are probably good to continue on. Like you mentioned, there are more lessons on value so as long as you have a workable understanding of the basics, you are on the right track.
Hope that helps :)