Dorian Iten
Barcelona
Former program director at Barcelona Academy of Art. Passionate about teaching solid craft and exploring the inner game of art.
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Isaac Pizarro
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1yr
Hello, does this course have Spanish subtitles?
1mo
Ahora si :)
1yr
Hola Isaac,
Todavía no, lo siento :/
Modules 1-4 have English subtitles, remaining modules are coming soon.
Spanish subtitles are on the roadmap for 2022.
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1yr
Hello! I was wondering: does the course come with discord access?
1mo
Update: Proko students can now join the dedicated Discord server of Shading Course!
Find out more at https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/join-our-discord-server/notes
1yr
Hi Roland,
Thanks for expressing interest in a Discord server!
Short answer: Not yet, but I'm considering it.
Long answer: I am running a Discord server, but it's currently only for students who join the course at my platform at theshadingcourse.com. I'd LOVE to give Proko students access as well, but haven't been able to figure out how to handle the resulting complexity.
1mo
Is there somewhere to get feedback on exercises?
1mo
Yes! There is a dedicated Discord server and I run weekly feedback sessions there.
See the lesson at the end of the course for instructions on how to join Discord 👍
→ https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/join-our-discord-server/notes
Dorian Iten
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2mo
Asked for help
Hello,
Here’s my light probes assignment. Pics 1 and 3 done on Procreate and 2 on Photoshop. @Dorian Iten, it was lots of fun and a nice opportunity to try out digitally on both - thanks.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Romain
2mo
Nice! 👏
Really good colors, values, and terminator ellipses on all of these!
A few notes:
In image 1, on the head, the specular reflection is a bit too bright.
In image 2, the light comes a bit more from the top. See the cast shadow of the nose on the cheek.
In image 3, on the jacket, the form light value is a bit too bright.
These are nitpicky notes. ;) Great work overall!
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4mo
Asked for help
I found this a really helpful assignment, and I was able to identify that I struggle the most with reflected light, like determining where it would be strongest.
4mo
Nice!
On the first one, you could get a stronger sense of form by pushing the dark halftones a bit darker and letting them come into the form light more. But these are both really solid overall!
4mo
Asked for help
Hi everybody! Here my attempt at the perfect egg assignment.
The first picture is a photo of the reference, but I worked live, not from a photo. It took me 4 hours to complete the drawing but I feel that there's more to add, just don't know exactly where and how.
I also have the feeling that my paper is a bit too rough
Worked with 2B, HB and 3H pencils
Alessio
4mo
Hi @Alessio Bortot,
There are a lot of things here that are working well! The subtlety of tones within the form light area is especially nice!
If you want to push it further, here is what I would do, ordered by priority:
1) Soften the transition at the terminator a bit more so the darkest halftones connect and kind of "melt" into the terminator. This will give you a stronger sense of form.
2) Soften the occlusion shadow so it is less of a line and more of a gradient.
3) Refine the drawing with a sharp pencil, using the "Island Hunting" method. As the tones get calmer, you will see opportunities for more nuanced adjustments in value and edge sharpness.
Good work, overall!
4mo
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My intention with this study was to spend at least 2 hours on it, because I have a bad habit of rushing when I draw. However, I only ended up spending 1 hour on it, because I felt like as I continued to try and refine it I was making the values muddy. Does anyone else have this problem, and any advice?
4mo
Hi @selenitis,
What do you mean by muddy?
I can see potential for creating a stronger effect of form by creating a more obvious gradient within the halftones. Currently, the value inside the form light area is fairly even in your image, while in the reference there is more of a difference between the center light and darker halftones.
4mo
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Hey there !
First off, this assignment really piqued my curiosity and the more I was going along with it the more interesting it got. I am happy with the final result.
The first pic is my reference which I started to ignore when it came to drawing the cast shadow - too much reflected light. This first drawing was made with 2H, HB and 2B graphite pencils. The values at the bottom are the ones I used for step 3 (value plan). Near the end, I darkened the background on the lighter side of the egg to make it pop out more.
I had a second crack at it with H, HB and 2B pierre noire pencils (last three pics) following the same process and ignoring the reflected light on the cast shadow from my reference. Charcoal is quite unforgiving if you go too dark too soon so it was like walking on...eggs.
Thanks @Dorian Iten for this assignment. Any critique/feedback would be much appreciated and I look forward to what lies ahead in this course.
Romain
4mo
Hi @Romain Decotte,
Good work!
You handled the transition of the dark halftones at the terminator especially well. 👍
I also like your decision of darkening the background next to the form light area, this does help a lot to make the egg pop.
A big thing I'm noticing here is that you seem to draw a dark egg as if it were a light egg. (Or, in more technical terms, drawing an egg with a dark local value as if it were an egg with a light local value.) As a result, in your drawing, the tonal relationship between the form light area and the form shadow area is thrown off. This is especially noticeable in the second drawing.
A lighter egg will have a lighter form shadow than a darker egg. See the attached image.
Your drawings look to me like a combination of the form light value of A with the form shadow value of B.
That said, you could get a white egg with a very dark form shadow, if there is very little ambient light because of a dark environment. The second drawing feels a bit like that, but the form shadow is too dark for how light the floor is.
In general, I find it much easier to make any tonal adjustments in the setup itself, so I can observe them directly, rather than trying to invent them. Then again, inventing is fun :) Sometimes it works, and other times it doesn't work. When invented light doesn't work, we can do detective work to figure out why.
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5mo
Asked for help
Hi @Dorian Iten! Here's my simple AO study :). T'was good fun!
Happy new year!
Cheers,
Romain
5mo
Well done! 👏 :)
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6mo
Hi Martin, yes, the lessons and assignments have Spanish subtitles 👍
9mo
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I did the exercise in photoshop with a mouse, not a stylus. I found the lesson more challenging than I thought it would be, due to the complex shape of the monkey’s head and so I spent a lot of time with it. I made several changes as I went through it. In particular, I kept changing the shadow under the monkey’s brow, —from form shadow initially, to cast shadow, but settled on dark halftone; the reason being it was in the light family. Another thought was whether to include the ear on the right as a form shadow or cast shadow, or both. I also had some thinking to do about the center light. Because of the modeled surface there were some parts that seemed to be receiving center light, like the monkey’s eye on the right, even though it was surrounded by half-tone. And I wasn’t sure how broad to define the ambient occlusion. So I would really appreciate some feedback on this assignment.
9mo
You did very well, @Bradley Forbush 👍
A few thoughts:
- The shadow on the ear on our right is a cast shadow caused by the head, so the edge of that shadow is a penumbra rather than a terminator.
- I tend to expand the Ambient Occlusion to a wider surface area because in shading, AO is such a useful device for creating form inside shadow areas.
I've uploaded a solution image at https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/practice-modfac-hunting/downloads
9mo
📣 Big Shading Course Update!
Two new demonstrations for the Value Gradient and Value Scale assignments add up to 1.5 hours of new content.
https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/value-gradient/notes
https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/value-scale/notes
🇪🇸 Also, Spanish subtitles are coming soon!
Additional updates:
- New tips in the Simple AO Study assignment.
- New example images in the HTB Head assignment
- New example images in the Refined HTB Head assignment
- New images in the Maquette Drawing assignment.
10mo
📣 My "Drawing Fundamentals" package has a new cover and new lesson images. 👉 https://www.proko.com/course/drawing-fundamentals-accuracy-values-light
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