So many middle to advanced courses, but still NO true drawing basics class.
3yr
Kevin Rigby
This is disappointing. I know Stan even admits this is a weakness in several previous podcasts, but there is still NO true drawing basics course for first years. To launch this without true fundamentals, yes I know there are a handful, but there is no true dedication to 'fundamentals'. Everything I look at seems to mostly be around portraiture and figure drawing (which I am one of the beginning dummies who bought those course two years ago not knowing what I didn't know about fundamentals) or character development.
Edit: I just noticed this. Upvoting and down voting is a huge mistake. This makes people compete for replies. And if someone gets pushed down, then for a new student or one that doesn't have self confidence or mentorship they will leave.
3yr
With the internet, I believe it's effective to find what each learning platform does best, and grab what you need from each. I've done Schoolism, CGMA, and New Master's Academy. New Master's Academy has been my favorite for absolute beginners as far as the courses. Just make sure you have a good artist who can critique your work
3yr
I am myself not mainly searching for portrait and figure drawing courses while at the same time I like the quality of Proko's teaching and also the community.
So these are what my thoughts are. This platform is very new and we all can help build it and grow it by being active. And I think that if we communicate our wishes in a constrtuctive way and if enough people agree it should be likely that more mentors from other fields get invited. Right now the Proko community is about Proko's specialty fields and that is only natural and completely understandable. But in my opinion it can only be in everyones interest when this platform grows into more fields. We just have to give it time, we are just in the state of the launching celebration and there already is a good variaty of courses.
Also for me it is not this platform or the other. I am looking for courses that are useful to me on all platforms.
Kevin Rigby
3yr
Solid points. Thanks. I've had similar thoughts.
Have you searched for any content outside of this platform? If you haven't, you could start the course on Https://drawabox.com . It's a great resource for pen control, milage and perspective :))
3yr
Thanks for the link! Yes, I found Pencil Kings, Crilley, and many others, but I liked the quality of Stan's product. Those first Fundamentals Vids are excellent instructional design. It hasn't stopped me, but reviewing the fundamentals is never a bad idea and I had just hoped Stan's team would come through with a full course with exercises like in the two courses I naively bought (his Portrait and Figure Drawing courses) when I first started. Fundamentals should be the very first complete course you see.
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Hi Kevin,
I've also bougth the Figure drawing course. While it is true that most of Proko's courses revolve around the human figure, i find it surprising that you would consider all of them to be middle/advanced level. Stan teaches us the most basic stuff in the figure drawing course like how to sharpen your pencil, how to hold and control it, the drawing supplies you need, etc... You also get to learn how to draw the most basic forms in perspective. You can apply this knowledge to any type of drawing, not just portrait or human figure. So i would say that there's definitely what you need to build up strong fundamentals.
3yr
Hi Kevin. I don't know how many drawings you already did, but when you struggle to get a start I highly recomend to visit mark crilleys youtube account. He has wonderful tutorials for people who start with the drawing hobby and his tutorials are not overwhelming. Apart from that I recommend the gesture drawing course. You can adapt gesture to every drawing. The videos from marco bucci on youtube give you a dive in this topic and many other too and build up a good fundament to work with. Hope this helps.
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I started with Mark. And they were extremely useful. I even own four of his books. But he's a one trick pony. Don't get me wrong, I AM drawing and painting in all three mediums for two years now, and gesture is taught all throughout the course I already own. I would just like to work my way through a thorough complete course for beginners. I won't mention the other website that Stan is playing catchup to because I support Proko. But the other guy (Edit: deleted incorrect statement) already has the fundamental courses. I'll just turn there if need be. I've learned through having been a student for many years (as I am the student here) and a professor that the fundamentals MUST be honed and mentored or extremely bad habits form that most of the time can't be undone with the student.
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