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@pedrobranco
This and shading are two topics that I never quite got. Hope this time's the charm. Can I request some exercises or some videos to study the more advanced aspects of cross contour? Also Poly says hi.
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@pedrobranco
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Leyendecker study. I struggle with the shading. Had a rough time with the lady, her chin, mouth and nose threw me off. Still happy with the performance. Critiques welcome.
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Brandon
Thx for the critique video. Actually, I haven't finished reading the whole fun with pencil coz I am stuck at the exaggerated pose page, haven't a hard time understanding why the exaggerated pose looks so much more fun. So far, I like the most for the easy-following guide on creating characters by attaching different blobs on the face. I copied some of the drawings then tried to create my own. @Stan Prokopenko You mentioned a few times on difference between intuitive people and logical people in drawing. As a logical person, i am too afraid to break rules, do you have any exercise to mitigate the anxiety? Or the question is a bit too early to think about as a beginner?
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@pedrobranco
I've been coming back to this lesson a few times since I don't get the blob part and whenever I see your comment I'm hoping someone would just reply as I'm not in much of a position to do so. However obviously we're still here and you have no reply so let me illuminate a few things. So sorry if I come off as a jerk but that's the state that I'm in as I really can't come up with a better way to say this. I've taken one of your most recent submissions and I'd like to point out that you made this, along with with a whole host of other submissions entirely on your own without following any set rules bar the requirements of using blobs and turning them into boxes. You could have just made variations of what Stan showed us in the demos but you came up with your own original set of examples. You are always going to have a few basic rules that you must follow when drawing. If you want to draw a landscape you're not going to fill a page with a portrait and call it a landscape. So you're being anxious at something you're already doing, unless you have something much more specific in mind. That or I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say.
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@pedrobranco
I took Patrick's approach to this assignment and did a quick 10 pictures 1 minute practice. I'm still not clear on what I'm looking for here. The way I understood this assignment is that we're supposed to make circular shapes and fit a cube in perspective inside or roughly within the limits of our defined space. I'm still more comfortable just putting down the cubes especially with the time limit and a model. I can also make these from imagination if need be. I feel like I'm skipping something important and given my shortcomings I can't allow that.
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@pedrobranco
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Hello everyone. Last month I embarked on a journey to have a bit of fun with my practice. I was pretty down since I failed with my personal project and the frustration led me to a few videos on other artist's art journeys. I came to the conclusion that I should just copy more stuff attentively as that's what everyone seemingly did when they were little. To start off, I decided to copy Terminal Montage's stuff as they make very simplified versions of characters with the odd detailed panel thrown in. 11 days and 400 copies later, here I am. It's 60 something pages so here's the link: https://imgur.com/a/JR4HpeY I very much recommend doing this to every beginner artist as it's easy to see the gestures, large shapes, negative spaces and so forth. Now any feedback will be greatly appreciated but mainly, where do I go from here? I've successfully managed to adapt this style through sheer brute force and am able to make my own characters using it, all be it not as well as the original artist's as I've obviously my own take on the thought process behind the decision making. Should I just do the same thing but with more detailed work? I've been told to get feedback online but Reddit is completely against me posting for some reason and this is the only other place that I know. Truth be told I'm quite a bit annoyed and saddened at the moment, I just had the first humans in motion lesson after the holidays and just looking at other members is a stark reminder of how far behind I am. Both the teachers that I have and my peers only give me very general advice. I keep getting asked why I do any construction on my drawings. And when I just compare their progress against mine, it's not even a competition. I rely so much on Stan's Beginner Course and can't really find out how I can branch out and just learn on my own.
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Zach Pipher
Stan, I really like doing the practice assignments, They make me feel good because I feel successful when I do them. However I don't really spend time doing personal projects. Whenever I draw I just do the most recent lesson or a lesson from the past that I felt like I needed more time doing. However I am worried though if I am stunting my growth by not drawing something for me- or rather something original, either from a reference or from imagination. How important would you say it is to make sure I spend a few days a week drawing for me and not doing old projects over and over again?@@ For reference I love drawing characters but they never look as good as I like them to. So i default to doing drawing that makes me feel comfortable.
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@pedrobranco
Chief I feel you, I've been in the cycle of fundamentals practice > get fed up > try a personal project > fail miserably > repeat for 3 years now. I sincerely hope to finish this year being able to draw my own works. To this effect I embarked on a bit of a journey to completing a personal project this past month, big reason why you haven't seen much from me bar that very rushed picture during this past assignment. It's in your best interests to keep on studying what Stan has taught us so far and try and "see" these theoretical concepts in the works that you like. Art is very much a subject that requires a lot of "understanding" in many fields and while it's often times best to figure these things out on your own, feel free to ask around for advice or a few nudges here and there. For example try to see the VPs and the "boxes" in drawings. Ask yourself "where did this artist put weight on his lines", "what shapes did they use" etc. So you can start building knowledge to make the pieces that you want. A nudge that I can give you is to find mistakes in artwork that you like. I was very surprised when I put the piece that motivated me to draw under the lens and noticed that it wasn't at all anatomically correct. The artist had made a great piece out of a pose that shouldn't work, their understanding of the subject being so good that only people with a certain knowledge would see it from the get go. In my opinion that's being a great artist.
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@pedrobranco
Watched the tutorial and wasn't quite sure if I understood this correctly. Want to know if I'm on the right path. Truth be told I've done these box people exercises a few times and drawing the blob is more unintuitive than jumping straight to the box for me. Did I misunderstand the tutorial? Am I entirely wrong? or is it more of a comfort thing? Sorry for the overlapping forms, I rushed this and miscalculated how much space I had.
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@pedrobranco
It's really reassuring to see Stan bolden some line in order to make it look more "correct". I thought that I really shouldn't be doing it as I'm not trying to "sculpt" an image but seeing as I'm not the only one and especially an artist with a lot of experience also draws and struggles with some of these topics does give me some much needed confidence. I've been doing some more ellipse only exercises, looking forward to the next lesson.
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@pedrobranco
Dad, I'm still not clear on the ellipse's axis. I'm assuming we can't just make one up or guess it huh?
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@pedrobranco
Ho man I had fun doing this one but I really rushed it with the tank. I wanted to give it a more complicated perspective and ended up wrestling with the roadwheels geometry for so long. It was definitely fun figuring it out but I'm exhausted. I'll definitely do more cylinders. I really struggle with them, especially when they are so small that I can't use my entire arm. got to draw my favorite tank though.
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@pedrobranco
I was wondering what you where doing when you drew the pinky in the sketch. Literally went "am I crazy? the pinky should be completely covered" XD Didn't think of connecting the thumb with a triangle like Stan did, I'll keep it in mind.
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@pedrobranco
Here's a portrait that I did recently. I'd like to be able to shade much like how Stan does in these demos but I just don't know where to start with the topic. It's a subject that I have a really hard time with. Tell me what you think please. Feedback is very appreciated.
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@pedrobranco
Here's a side view drawing. I lost the reference sadly.
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@pedrobranco
Here are my submissions. Not nearly as many as I wanted to do. It's a decently fun exercise. Lost the reference for one of the hands but it's just a flat open hand. Recommend doing it to get into the lvl 2 exercise. In hindsight I feel like I went a bit too stuff with some of the hands where I stubbornly held to the idea that my boxes shouldn't curve, a rule that I arbitrarily broke in a few cases. I also just noticed that my no.2 hand lvl 2 is exactly the same situation as lvl 1. I might submit another before the deadline. Have fun everyone.
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@pedrobranco
Hah, managed to do no2 hand lvl 2. A lazy attempt but I wanted to go practice my rhythms but I just had to submit something, the unfinished feeling suck in the back of my mind.
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@pedrobranco
I've been a bit stumped as to what to study. This'll be a really cool challenge.
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@lieseldraws
Here's a burning question: Does simply practicing more boxes help you draw them accurately enough? (Like Stan said, I understand we're not aiming for 100% accuracy in free-hand drawing) What if you keep drawing them wrong? I feel like making the same mistakes over and over again won’t lead to improvement. You have to fix your boxes afterwards. For example, vanishing points can't be randomly placed. The horizon line should be perpendicular to the Y axis (Marshall talks about this in the Draftsmen episode on perspective). But the problem is, it’s time-consuming to find those far-off vanishing points to ensure they’re positioned correctly. I feel like it’s unproductive to be correcting every box you draw this way (like the attached photo). Then again, you can’t improve without knowing what’s wrong, right? So how do you practice more efficiently? Anyone with some advice, please help. I'm tired of drawing ugly boxes and spending hours correcting them look convincing.
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@pedrobranco
I started my art journey two years ago with Drawabox. As the name implies, you very quickly move into drawing 3d boxes. In fact the major challenge of the first chapter in that course is to draw 250 boxes in perspective without drawing the vanishing points. After doing the challenge, I was still completely in the dark. I'd gotten better at drawing boxes but they were rarely "correct". This was mainly down to the simple fact that learning how to do this, as with learning anything, requires one to commit to understanding the insights that are given and/or figuring out these insights by oneself. If you can understand "what" you are drawing and its rules, you can draw it. And this sounds like a very stupid thing to just say, I mean it's a given that if you want to learn you need to pay attention, but fact was I'd just done the 250 box challenge 4 times, while reading the articles on the site, and none of the insight was sticking. I had to use a ruler to make something even remotely accurate. The biggest insight that made the gears turn for me was understanding that "things move away from a point and as they move towards it, their form distorts into being smaller". What this means is that if I can identify the closest "object" everything will shrink from there. Couple that insight with the rule that everything converges into a point and my knowledge of what a cube is and I could conclude a few other things such as: - You can find a VP with any two lines in case you need to. - After confirming the general position of the VP you can draw any line that converges towards it. - If you draw two lines that converge to one VP, any 3rd line drawn in between these lines can't have a greater angle than the first two lines. I could go on and it's all very obvious stuff that I wasn't paying attention to. Until I made a conscious effort to really "know" the things that I already knew and had read over a dozen times by this point. Honestly from what you're saying it feels like you're tying way too hard to get them absolutely perfect, which I don't think anyone can do with perfect accuracy. Maybe take a break from boxes or review what you know and draw a few with just your knowledge of drawing a box in 3d and then ask yourself where you went wrong, if you went wrong that is. It also helps to look at a box or cube in real life or in a 3d viewer. Hope this helps.
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@pedrobranco
Took longer than I wanted but here are the rest of the portraits I said I'd do last week..
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@pedrobranco
Thank you very much for the critique Stan. I've gone and started drawing the entire set again being more mindful of the relations I set on paper. So far I struggle to really get the forehead of the models right, it's the part of the head where I can't come up with a "way to draw it" that's accurate. Apart from that I feel like I still can't render any details properly. If there's anything anyone sees that I should be doing/I'm doing wrong please tell me. I'll be uploading the 10 remaining portraits along the week after I've taken some notes from the lvl2 demo and the critique video.
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@pedrobranco
2 minutes in, I felt like I had taken the portrait drawing part a bit too seriously and missed the mark of the exercise so I did the lvl 1 assignment again. While I can't say that I'm an eminence at this, it's not a very hard exercise if you know what you're looking for.
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@pedrobranco
Hey everyone, here are my first 10 submissions for the level 1 and 2 assignment. I will post the rest in a reply as well as more portraits. I'm overall satisfied with my performance though for no. 2, 4, 8 and 10 I feel I missed the mark and will be revisiting them later. Am I doing this right? or am I missing the mark. I feel like I'm doing a bit too much guesswork even though the portraits come out fine if a bit flat. Like in no. 9 I was absolutely sure I had the angles right but then It felt like the eyes weren't aligned right, that's where I feel like I started to see a tilt in the pose? my feet really aren't on solid ground here.
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@pedrobranco
Here's the rest of my set. Wanted to have these out earlier but I spent the weekend practicing gesture and when I picked the assignment up on Sunday, my performance was all over the place. No. 11-15 look weird but hey that's that. Ill practice portraits some more. As for putting the boxes in perspective. I don't know how well I'm doing to be honest. The portraits are too close for there to be any significant perspective distortion but I may be entirely wrong.
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