Michael Burge
Michael Burge
Australia
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Michael Burge
Hi all. I am back to this course after a bit of break drawing other things. I am finding I am a bit rusty with mannequinization. Was hoping someone could give me some pointers and areas I can focus on as I head into the final exercise video of this section. The first one is me trying it on my own and the second is following along with the video. I should ready try again on my own but I often run out of steam by the end. Thanks all.
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Katey Jensma
Hi @Michael Burge , please post your assignments in the original lesson instead of the assignment examples. All comments posted in the lesson are considered Help Requests.
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Michael Burge
Thanks Katey. I actually tired that this morning so glad to have that confirmed. Just got a little confused as other posts in those videos comments have the asking for help tag.
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Michael Burge
Hi All, I have gone through all of the examples videos (except foreshortening) and here are my exercises. I think I am finally starting to get the idea but I still have problems with knowing which plane should be visible for the ribcage. The top plane or the bottom plane? Thanks in advance.
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Michael Burge
Hi There does not seem to be any way to ask for help unless you are just flagging it in your profile or in the community posts. If you select to post it to a specific course video comments section it disappears. Correct me if I am wrong but unless I ask for help then no one will know that I have added an image requesting some feedback? Please see the images attached. I appreciate everyone in the community who takes the time to give feedback and I don't want to sound impatient. I just want to make sure I am doing the right thing to get feedback for my posts in the courses. Thanks
Michael Burge
Here is my last lot for the twist robo bean. I am starting to see improvement but still having problems with what plane should be visible for the torso. The top or the bottom. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Michael Burge
Here are some of the tilt robo-bean. Still can't figure out which plane should be showing. Top or Bottom.
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Michael Burge
Hi all, Here are the last few robo-beans from this video. Like always I try myself, then copy and finally try again by myself. I think I am getting better but I still have issues in knowing which plane is visible the bottom or the top. Any tricks or suggestions about this. Also any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Michael Burge
Can't wait for this to start and both Monsters and shapecarving are new to me. Just a quick questions though do you think this would help with any kind of character designs not just monsters? I am playing around with some animal designs and looking at ways to add personality to the drawings. Still super keen to get into this though.
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Gabriel Kahn
I would say, you should separate them a bit. For me, if I do practice my goal is to draw as much as possible and just fill in pages. I believe @Stan Prokopenko and @Marshall Vandruff talked about this in the Draftsmen Podcast, where two groups of students were tasked to create the best piece of pottery they could produce. One of the groups had to work on one single piece of pottery, while the other ones had to create several. In the end, the team which has created several pieces of pottery ended up winning the competition, because they simply had more experience. Also, it gives you a sense of accomplishment if you finish something you are working on. If you only do 30-hour illustrations you will quickly find yourself unmotivated, because you won't feel like you are improving. The 'Do it right' approach should be used when you are *working*. If you have an important personal project, or you have a commission to do always strive for creating the best thing you can because these are going to be your most important works. I hope I could help! Have fun on your art journey! :)
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Michael Burge
Just wanted to say this is a great bit of advice and something I have been striving for. Always good to have a reminder 😊
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Michael Burge
Hey Andy, I hear you, I get days like that too where no matter what I do the lines just don't do what I want them to do. The best thing I have found recently is to do a few minutes of warmup lines on a page. A whole bunch of S C and I marks just to loosen up before a session. Only take 2 minutes and it makes a difference in the confidence of my lines. Here are 2 example pages. Hope that helps. Keep it up you are doing great.
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Izak van Langevelde
Nice model, commissions like this can be very rewarding! I suggest you try to summarise the furry texture, instead of rendering each and every strand of fur. There are many videos out there about rendering hair, which teach the same idea.
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Michael Burge
Cool thanks I will have a look at some of them before I try the next one. Thanks for the advice.
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Moonfey
Aww, this is so lovely! Your kids are lucky, I would have loved to have a drawing like that then I was little! I’m not really used to drawing fur myself, but from what I can see it’s structure looks like that of a well loved stuffed toy animal. The only this I can say is to consider values a little more, it would make this adorable drawing stand out more! For example: think of there the light hits the toy and leave those areas whiter and you could also make the darkest areas even darker. Good luck with your daughters toy!
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Michael Burge
Thanks. Yes value is definitely an area I am lacking in as I know I don't go dark enough with fear of messing up the drawing. I think I will do some value studies where I don't mind messing up to try and break me of this bad habit. Thanks for the advice and encouragement.
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Art Anderson
I would say you did a great job. Fur is tough! I try to treat fur like shading with a texture. I plan out my highlights mids and darks on a separate paper with the texture I want on the fur. I think you have it here. Remember the details are in the mids the highlights a d shadows have about the same amount of detail.
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Michael Burge
Thanks. Good suggestion i really want to work on my value range as I have this fear of going too dark and messing up the drawing even though in the past it has worked for me. I have have to keep pushing passed it. I have done a quick value study of a woman's face just drawing the shadows and it works out better then I though it would. I will go back and do something like that again to break me of this habit. Thanks again.
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Arielle Ronin
when painting fur I try not to draw every single hair. Than you get just edgy strokes. Here is one trick I usually use: I focus on one small area of the reference. Than I observe the flow of the fur in this area. Like your finding the 'gesture' of the fur. Draw a few indication lines as orentation. Than I draw the "clumps and clusters" of the fur in the directio the gesture takes. Not the single line you often draw when you try to draw fur gives the feeling of real fur. More the direction in which it goes. Hopefully I explained it in an understandable way :)
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Michael Burge
Yeah that's great and definitely something for me to focus on for the next drawing. Thanks.
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Juan Gagliardo
This looks awesome! I would suggest 3 things for you to try: 1- Increase the value range. You could try in a separate paper how deep you can make the shadows and how much steps you can go in the mid tones 2- Render with suggested texture. If you render fur in some strategic areas (outlines, high contrast zones, changes in form) then the brain fills the rest, resulting in a more neat result with the sensation of texture all over. 3- Draw with the texture instead of lines. I can see solid lines underneath the fur in the contours. You could draw normally, and then when it's fur time, erase the lines one at a time and make that form again but with fur. This is linked with the point 2
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Michael Burge
Awesome suggestions. You are so right about value though as I have a fear of going too dark and messing up the drawing. Even though in the past when I have gone darker it works out great. Suggestion 2 and 3 are great too and things I look forward to working on. Thanks again
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Peter Anton
Squint your eyes- it'll help you see the overall impression of the texture so you don't lose the forest for the trees
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Michael Burge
Good suggestion. I have seen this mentioned from time to time but have never really given it a try. As I was thinking of trying to draw trees next as they are the same kind of complexity your suggestions is strangly accurate. Thanks
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Michael Burge
Hi all, Just finished this drawing for my son of his favourite stuffed toy. Although I am happy with how it turned out considering this is my first step into fur or fake fur I was just wandering if anyone had any advice that I could use next time. Let's just say my daughter got jealous and has now demanded that she have one of her favourite toys immortalized by daddy 🀣. Any advice is greatly appreciated
Michael Burge
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Hi all. I am hoping this is how I am supposed to do this. Sorry if it's not. Just finished this drawing for my son of his favourite stuffed toy. This is well outside of my wheelhouse as I usually draw portrait and practice figure drawing. I am happy with how it turned out but would love some feedback or suggestions about how I could do better next time. Have added the reference photo I took also for comparison. All done with a 2b machanical pencil and a blending stump in that dark areas.
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Michael Burge
Hi all. Here is a whole bunch of bean's. First I would try myself then copy Stan then try again. Feedback would be great. Thanks.
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Michael Burge
Hi all, so excited for Proko 2.0 here are some 2 minute gesture drawing I have done. I did as Stan suggested tried myself then copied him and finally tried again myself. Any pointers or advice would be greatly appreciated. And apologies for the light quality. I do my practice at night but I tried to lighten it up a bit in Photoshop.
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