John Masterton
John Masterton
Otway Ranges
I am a market gardner in the Otways, Vic, Australia. I dream of painting and drawing well.
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John Masterton
Hi everyone. My go at the side view of the breasts. Have a good day.
John Masterton
Hi everyone. I always feel a bit lost in all the info so any helpful feedback will be appreciated. The Breast assignment. Thankyou.
Jesper Axelsson
Hi @John Masterton, nice studies! I think you've done a good job capturing the feeling of gravity, and the anatomy looks pretty accurate too! One thing I noticed is that the shapes of the breasts differ from the photo reference; Bottom left: her left breast points up quite high, like a cone, compared to the reference, which is more a flattened cylinder. Bottom right: Her left breast curves up too much in the drawing, which makes it loose the feeling of gravity Maybe this happened because you weren't thinking of the breasts as 3D structures. It would be interesting to see you approach the breasts with the same structure mindset, as when drawing the mannequin or when studying the bones (I attached an image from another critique. You can ignore the "1. 2. 3."- thing; that was only for that specific critique. I just wanted to show you breasts drawn as 3D structures. (They are kinda like jellyfish on top of the ribcage) Or maybe this happened because of the drawing process. One thing that helped me a lot was to follow along with Stan and mimick his process. One thing I found him do was drawing an oval envelope for each breast. These were not simple outlines of 2D shapes; with it he encapsulated the form and indicated it's interaction with the ribcage. Very simple but showing a lot. Hope this helps :)
John Masterton
These look awesome man.
Rubén Frutos
Thanks, John!!
Jason Winter
My attempt at the "Hand Bones Assignment".
John Masterton
cool
John Masterton
I tried not to copy Stan's examples line for line and use my imagination more but I had to sort of glance at them to get an idea. Still trying to get my bearings in the 3d world and trying to imagine how things sit together.
Jesper Axelsson
Hi @John Masterton, nice studies! I'll do my best to help you further: - Be mindful about proportion. In most of these you're making them too large. In the bottom right the body of the scapula is too small. To keep my proportions in check I like to compare the scapula to the sternum: they are the same length. You find a proportion diagram in this video at 1:16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJMoplyGboI&t=75s This might also help you get the proportions right: When I go to a new lesson in the course I always start by drawing from the 3D-model, until I can draw the bone from imagination ( not perfectly, but I have "acquainted" myself with the bone; its form and proportions ). I do this before I start finding the bones on a model. I don't know if this will help, but in a critique to another student I described how I think an artists "X-ray vision" works. I attached a screenshot Keep up the good work!
John Masterton
Hi everyone. Any helpful feedback very welcome. I have done the rib cage exercises and a few beans and other things.
Jesper Axelsson
Looking great! - I think you're making the sternum too long. Remember that it ends halfway down to the 10th rib corner, not the 12th Hope this helps :)
John Masterton
Working at getting proportion happening. Just getting the bucket going is tough, but I felt like I was breaking though just a little bit
Rick B
3yr
try squishing them a bit. They appear to be too long.
Jesper Axelsson
Hi @John Masterton, good studies! - Remember that the cap farther from us should be a more open ellipse. So in a top view, the bottom cap should be more open. I attached some paintovers of other students' work explaining this - The bucket is not a perfect cylinder, it's compressed, which can make it tricky to draw. One thing that helped me was to start by thinking in terms of a cylinder, then find were the front and back is. The compression happens here. In your bottom left drawing you had the compression happen on the sides, which isn't the case for the pelvis bucket. (see attached paintover) What I described above is a more technichal way to go about it. Another way is to imagine holding the bucket in your hands. Look at your drawing, imagine holding it; does it feel right in your hands? Is it the same form as the 3D-model. Touch, is something that has helped me understand and draw form more intuitively Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work!
Tony Vu
Here are some of my better attempts at drawing the pelvis using the wireframe model. This exercise has been quite the workout for my brain. I feel that the cylinders that I base my pelvis' in are off compared to the bucket's model. Any feedback would be appreciated thanks!
João Bogo
3yr
Very good, Tony. They all look solid and clean. Right now, what I think you can improve is perspective. the issue i'm seeing in most of these drawings are parallel lines that don't converge and forms that are pointed in the wrong way like the sacrum for example. The bottom right one is the prime example of this. Whenever you're drawing like this, always have in your mind the box form. Ask yourself which lines are parallel, because when they are drawn in perspective they will converge to the same point. And be careful when you're laying the definitive lines. The pelvis on the middle for example you drew the bucket correctly but in the final drawing you draw the line of the psis converging to the wrong point. You're in the right way but you need a fine tuning, So keep drawing boxes until you get an intuitive sense on how lines converge in perspective. Best regards
Tony Vu
I did some more studies. Hopefully this time my lines converge like they're meant to.
Jesper Axelsson
Nice!
John Masterton
All ways a challenge in many ways, relationship, proportion and clean lines but putting the pencil to paper. Yah.
Jesper Axelsson
Great job! - Make sure to keep the tapering from bottom to top consistent. In some of these it's a little wobbly Keep up the good work!
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