Jan D.
Jan D.
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Yiming Wu
To me the two things that immediately jumped out is the lack of water reflection of the white female body in the center, and the left figure looking a bit wonky.... Otherwise to my eyes this piece looks overall very solid. I especially love the tone and lighting of that male figure. This image on first glance looks like it has the look of those classic galley-ish paintings. Could be nice to polish a bit more maybe? like the crop could potentially be on a wall or something :D
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Jan D.
Thanks Yiming. You're right about the lady on the left. Something's wrong with her:D
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Jan D.
C&C welcome:) Been loving the work of Artem Demura. He worked on Mortal Shell I think. Liked This painting much more during sketching and planning I had a way more pronounced color scheme at the start that just devolved over time. Maybe should have stuck with it. Not too happy with the two figures on the left and managed to split the painting in half againXD with the big boulders:P What do you think?
Yiming Wu
And yes, by uploading to proko and it did yet another conversion trip due to image down-scaling, it's not as bad when I noticed happening in my project files tho
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Jan D.
I remember seeing a problem in photoshop a while back where I was getting terrible banding on a painting but turned out to be only a problem with the way photoshop was displaying the image. Was fine after i exported to png.
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Jan D.
Sounds interesting! So sick of always having some weird problems with the bloated photoshop. my canvas keeps flickering!:D
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Steve Lenze
Hey Jan, I really like the background for this, it has a lot of mood. I guess my biggest note would be that all the compositional elements are all pushed down into the lower left corner. Were you going to put a title at the top? Also, I would add some acting to the character to make him more interesting. Use the pose, or body language, to show emotion. I did a quick diagram to show you what I mean, I hope it helps :)
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Jan D.
thanks Steve. i was kinda fighting with myself between cropping the top of the painting off and leaving it. the pose sure does seem stiff:p thanks anyway!:)
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Jan D.
The Raven by Edgar Allan Poe. Feels meh really idk. what do you think about it?
@kaitosart
Can you post a picture of the model and a time amount so we can draw and post on IG with the hashtag (suggestion #livingsessionwithProko ) ? I love living drawing sessions and it would be awesome to draw along with you guys and post our art with the community ;)
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Jan D.
yeah would be cool if they posted a higher res version. They did show a photo for a sec or 2 and i snapped it on the live show:D It's cool to paint along. It's only 720p tho:P
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Tim Dosé
Step way back or shrink it way down. Can you tell what's going on? Is the story still readable? Can you distinguish the important people/objects needed to tell the story? If the answer to any of these is no, adjust until it's yes. Especially pay attention to the values—theyll be the main thing to work with. Also look out for earlier decisions you've made that you think you can't change, like the placement of things, or how big they are. For bonus points, show it to a friend for only a short time--like 10 seconds--and see if they can explain the story from just seeing it for a short time.
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Jan D.
hah I suppose the answer's no, no, no. The 10 sec test seems handy tho!:) I've acc just restarted the piece in my post below:) Thanks for the tips!
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Jan D.
Damn I just wrote up a long comment and pressed cancel instead of post. Ctrl+z didn't work. Great:D Anyway, thanks for all the great critique. Here's the short version: That's where I'm at now. I tried pushing the figures together to fit them in a more unified focal point. Might still move the caveman around to fit the rhythm of the other 2 better. I like the gesture of 13, especially in the 2 characters up front and sure will try to get that in the final piece. I also tried to lead the eye around the painting using some contrast. Seen some of that in Mucha's slav epic that I've been low key fascinated by lately. I also moved them out of the cave. I think it makes more sense to keep them in a more vague environment, not specific to one of the characters. Also gives me some of that nice sunlight. Any c&c welcome:)
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Jan D.
They look great to me tbh:D The only thing I could maybe say is that you could try to clean them up a little more around the face/focal point. Unless they are just quicker practice then great job!:)
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Serena Marenco
Hi Jan! I really like the concept! I think you need to adjust the perspective because the figures appear squashed against the back wall, which seems to me to be curved (first figure). Make the perspective homogeneous: it is true that they are three different figures but they are in the same space. I would also say that the horizon line is at the height of the painter's head in the centre. But if the observer is standing, it should be higher. Is the observer sitting behind the three figures? Then the horizon line is fine where it is. We have a nice line of action joining the three figures. Make sure that the figures follow it as well as possible. Now, check the spatial construction of your figures because they seem to be resting on different planes, especially the last one on the left. Enlarge the picture and consider where the ground line and the outer vanishing points are. Place the three figures on the floor and check that they are positioned correctly. Having enlarged the picture and found the ground, it is now obvious that the desk has a different perspective to everything else. In short, you have to arrange the geometric construction so that everything is solid and coherent. It also seems to me that there are too many light sources. I see one on the ground, between the caveman and the renaissance painter, then there's the light coming from the display and these are fine. Finally, however, there is an ambient light coming from the left, and this seems to me to confuse things a bit, making the whole thing inconsistent. In short, leave aside for a moment the final work and put yourself on a sketchpad to solve and simplify the aspects I have listed. Next time, before you start painting, do these various construction steps so that you don't have to make too big of a correction while painting. I hope I didn't confuse you too much and that I was helpful :)
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Jan D.
wow thanks for the great critique Serena!:) Yeah its a bit all over the placeXD I'll have to come up with something new. I'm thinking to push them all together closer and kinda have a more central focal point. I'll put myself on that sketchpad whenever I'll get some time:D
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Yiming Wu
Humm... well composition wise if you don't like how this one turned out you could maybe add a bit more concentration on one of them, like using differences in brightness to emphasize one of the guys. To me you seem to want a "progress" kind of look? If so you don't want to cramp them too tightly, but that's tricky because they tend to blend into each other. Do you have more thumbnails for this piece? The guy in the middle is probably because the head being too big to the rest of the body? like if you look, the body is kinda too short.
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Jan D.
Thanks Yiming! I was kinda trying to keep all 3 of them in the focal point which is kinda dumb now that I think about it:D Might have to come up with something new:)
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@graphiter
Hey Jan. I see the story you are trying to tell and I like that you are telling one. The details are built on an unresolved composition. The story unfolds in a horizontal manner, but there are lots of vertical lines that are interrupting the flow behind it. if you made it into a triptych with each person on a panel and them interacting, that may work?
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Jan D.
Hi Graphiter. I see what you mean. I'll try to keep it on one panel tho. Will have to rework the composition:)
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Dan B
I like the idea too, nice! To me the issue is just values. I would look to add more contrast on the central figure and reduce contrast for the background (all lighter or all darker). The figures on the right and left look good, but could also do with a little more contrast to bring them out a little more. I also think the bright light down between the middle and right men is a bit distracting and doesn't add to the picture aside lighting the left guy.
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Jan D.
Thanks Dan! Yeah It does blend a little and would use some contrast.
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Jan D.
I'm not really liking the way this is turning out but I like the idea. Any suggestions? + The guy in the middle doesn't look right.
Jan D.
Im pretty sure its not the direct sunlight and is coming from the right of the arm-> Towards the end of the shot the forearm catches it a bit of it and you can see how it appears past the terminator line of the main light pretty clearly. it also shines on the back of the arm that is definitely pointed away from the light. I'd bet its just a mirror or something reflecting the sunlight back on him.
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Irvin Torres
Looks great. Cant seem to find that stuff in Mexico :(
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Jan D.
Couldn't you order it online? Winsor & Newton sell it I think. I found my one in the most obscure art shop tbhXD It's on the back of a book shop, covered in spider webs and I'm pretty sure i was the first customer there in a long time. The owner was looking at me with amazement.:D The only other place has a little corner with art supplies and don't have much in there. Gotta love small towns:P
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Jan D.
Hi I like how you're focusing on the planes and the light direction in those:)Only maybe try to define the shapes a little more precisely? They seem a little patchy maybe. If it's colour that you're trying to practice I would perhaps focus on simpler shapes. Faces are already so complex and demanding on their own. Maybe some still life or something.
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Jan D.
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Hi Only been painting in oil for a few months so I didn't really get a chance to varnish anything. But this painting had some big issues with variable glossiness so I gave retouch varnish a go and I loved it! Feels like its the first time I can actually see all of it without the values going all over the place. Easier to take pictures as well. The only thing is that some dust got stuck to it which is annoying. I have covered it with a sheet of baking paper between each layer and thought that would be enough. Idk, will have to find a more dust free place for varnishing. Anyway, this is a repainted version of an older digital work that I wanted to do in oil from the start. hope you like it!:) C&C welcome:)
@devica
I always wanted to see more illustrated covers on professional literature. Psychology is an especially good topic for creativity. Based on that I tried my hand at 'The Uncanny' by Sigmund Freud. Depicting a surreal scene in a realistic rendering, to keep the theme relevant. The initial drawing is done in graphite and coloured digitally. While I kept the typography clean and less creative as it is professional literature, and it needs some strict structure as a balance.
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Jan D.
Truly and amazing Illustration. Love it:)
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