loes roos
loes roos
panama, mariato
Drawing since I was young, MSc biology, continued drawing, did courses to improve techniques. Mostly into scientific and nature related illustration
loes roos
I never before learnt before about this weird way that the long axis does not need to be in the middel and that the short ellipse axis goes parallel to the vanishing point... very cool!!! But it does work... I will need to experiment with that! And that only with a perfect circle both axes are through the center and are equal... very interesting!
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Rachel Kellogg
I struggle to see gesture lines, especially when it comes to figure drawing. The cylindrical shape of the seals helped. Would love feedback!
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loes roos
Indeed Melanie is right. I think your focus is too much on the contour lines of the seal rather than on the gesture. A gesture line can also be seen as a line of action and can be for example roughly following the backbone in some poses... Or a particularly strong curve that can be exaggerated even more. Your drawings are more based on structure. With strong base lines that are perfect straights. The drawings are not bad though.
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@myccal
So I feel pretty comfortable with the simplified one, two, and three point perspective with simple boxes that have parallel sides and 90 degree corners. Will this course go further into more complex shapes? Like what if the box twists as it recedes or tapers as it comes toward you or curves?
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loes roos
It already did a bit... look at the comments Johannes S. did a whole bunch... plus a link....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcpkeIiTMCk
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loes roos
I do not know whose hand it is, but it is way more flexible than my own hand! Great demo with the gesture before. Good lesson! Definitely did not give enough attention to the boxes!
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Scott Diesing
Deadline: Submit by 1/15/2024 for a chance to be in the critique video! ??? I love time travel, but I'm not very good at it.
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loes roos
Up to today 22 2 ...
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@jcicero09
So glad I finally caught up with the course to get a potential critique! Here are my level 1 submissions for this assignment. I wasn't quite sure where and if the boxes should be connected for the knuckles so I experimented with both. I also thought it would be fun to add my hand drawing from the "Learning to sketch from observation" assignment as well just to show how much I've improved in just a few months of this course. This has been a great course so far!
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loes roos
Look at the difference with the first hand exercise... These box hands look so much more 3 D and integrated!
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@mica_
I really enjoyed doing this exercice, don't know if i did it right but at least i really enjoyed drawing this hand
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loes roos
This looks good to me. I see you also taper the boxes to the tip of the fingers...
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Dermot
When looking at other boxhand drawings in the forum, I see a lot that I didn't consider. Many look drawings look amazing, Being a novice, do I learn from these drawings or wait for the demo and critiques. I know I have to start somewhere but what if I'm learning from incorrect drawings. Am I overthinking on this ? Any feedback would be appreciated.
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loes roos
A lot of artists or wanna be artist fall in the video watching trap... try and do 80% try out and only 20% watching videos to learn... It is hard. Real hard. 50 50 with your time is already a big win. Or 50 drawing, 30 watching videos and 20 being in the community...
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hArtMann
Did manipulations such as bending, rounding and twisting of the boxes in order to increase the difficulty and allow me to add better gesture. There where occasions where I could see the left side of a finger segment and at the other end the right side, so I added twisting. I know fingers don't twist unless an external force is applied but I did end up liking how the twisting does add more energy to the fingers.
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loes roos
In a way the bending makes them look better and may seem easier because it is truer to the hand...
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Suteja Rao
Hello all.. Submitting my boxes..I found this exercise quite tough and found really difficult to do Level 2..Will wait fo rthe demo to attempt that. Not really satisfied with what I. have done , but I have been labouring on it for 3 days..and this is the best I could do!
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loes roos
me too. Will wait with level 2 after the demo. Also have no time left.
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loes roos
Pff in between work and high season a quick box study of the hands. I forgot at first to do the big layout but I do need that. I was drawing boxes but not paying attention to perspective of each box in relation to the other. Not sure that is required. Had fun though. The triangle thing for the thumb throws me off a bit...I also had a big tendency to taper my boxes with the top of the fingers... thinner at the top than at the bottom but then they are no longer true boxes...
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loes roos
A warm up in boxes. I noticed that I am not generally precise when warming up. I usually doodle.. With boxes that feels off. But got warm and post my first level of the hands under the hands...
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loes roos
Interesting. Never really thought about that 4 point as a fisheye view or the rounded lens view. Cool. Worth exploring. But did a few cubes using the Y. I was also not familiar with that technique. I have drawn quite a bit using the isometrics so I forced myself here and there with relatively close imaginary vanishing points. About 20 done... of the 100 plus...
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@lieseldraws
Here's a burning question: Does simply practicing more boxes help you draw them accurately enough? (Like Stan said, I understand we're not aiming for 100% accuracy in free-hand drawing) What if you keep drawing them wrong? I feel like making the same mistakes over and over again won’t lead to improvement. You have to fix your boxes afterwards. For example, vanishing points can't be randomly placed. The horizon line should be perpendicular to the Y axis (Marshall talks about this in the Draftsmen episode on perspective). But the problem is, it’s time-consuming to find those far-off vanishing points to ensure they’re positioned correctly. I feel like it’s unproductive to be correcting every box you draw this way (like the attached photo). Then again, you can’t improve without knowing what’s wrong, right? So how do you practice more efficiently? Anyone with some advice, please help. I'm tired of drawing ugly boxes and spending hours correcting them look convincing.
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loes roos
Try and sketch free hand, and check yourself with a ruler or an angle... Just that first bit... Your eye should learn to adjust...
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loes roos
Great exercise to explain the X and the Xray. And to kill the illusion of the arms being the exact lenght of the t-shirt, I just lowered the tshirt line... Amazing indeed to see the effect of being closer to a vanashing point. Did this on a paper, no digital... I am had to do this fast and did it traditional, not much attention for beautiful lines here...
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loes roos
I never got around to do a retry of the other portraits in my proper new ipad with the proper apple pencil... but I am motivated by these critiques.
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loes roos
Finally did at least 3 more. posted them today. Still struggling with this way of portrait drawing.
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loes roos
I must admit that I find this rather hard. Thinking of the head as a box and after seeing the critiques happy to construct a bit more within said box. I wanted to post at least 3 more heads after my initial 6 before moving on to the next lesson... I used about 10 to 15 minutes on each, with a bit extra on the one that is alone. I used blue for my initial sketch box and then red for the lines, but sometimes I forgot to do them in different layers in procreate so I erased some of the original lines...and switch to blue at some stage... oh well the wonders of digital in procreate... A good exercise. I will try and do it more often. Portrait 5 is a bit too wide. I think I needed to make the box narrower. The tilted head was hard. I barely found the box and started too early on the boxy contours, going backwards and forewards... Will watch the video again soon.
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Angela Barry
soooo ... this happens when you don't have a brush to use instead of your fingers struggling with the touchpad.🤣🤣🤣
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loes roos
So true. I had a similar experience recently when I had to use my old ipad with not an applepencil but just a standard cheap one...
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@konstantaon
how do you get that good line quality digitaly???
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loes roos
But in krita, do you use your finger or do you have a wacom with a pen? Or on a touch screen? All of it makes a difference. Mouse and fingers also mean that it is best to enlarge the area you draw so it looks smoother when you make it smaller again.
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loes roos
There are different brushes, different programmes and different external pens or hands to use... and then to finetune them. A long time ago, I did a sumi-e course and for the first two weeks we were just practising 15 cm long lines, trying to get colour into them. When I first got my procreate in ipad, I started testing the brushes and also the pressure. Have found a few that I am happy with. Many I still am wobbly with. Also, it depends a lot on the position of the digital device. I also have a wacom flat on the desk and that works ok with a wacom pen. The ipad when attached to the magical keyboard is in the worst position for my arm... I have to take it off and have only a slight angle... Experiment is all I can suggest.
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