David Gutmann
David Gutmann
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29.07.2022
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28.07.2022 gesture practise
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@instinctfollower
Hello, Here are some of the sketches I've done this week for the gesture lesson - I will add more pictures in the comments. Any help would be greatly appreciated - thanks! I tried to show my progression - at first I was way too detailed and contour-focused (I think?) and then as I tried to simplify things I was still a bit self-conscious with my lines - After watching the criticism video, I tried not to care so much about making mistakes and using fewer lines in less time without worrying about proportions for the process to feel more intuitive and I enjoyed it more. I think I am having some issues with proportions but they said this would come with time, hopefully - would you recommend for me to continue focussing exclusively on gesture sketches or would it be a good idea to now move on to the next lesson (and perhaps continuing to practise with the gesture every day as a warm up?) Many thanks
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David Gutmann
yes deffinetly move on but cuntinue practicing gesture. About proportions: Yes it is a practise thing but there are ways to improve it. 1. Knowing the landmarks of the body 2. Knowing the lengthe relationship of certain bodyparts. (for example: neutral shoulders are two cranial units wide) 3. measuring and comparing angles.
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David Gutmann
27.07.2022 Hi this is my gesture practise for today. I would really apreceate some feddback
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David Gutmann
26.07.2022 My gesture practice for today
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24.07.2022 Todays gesture drawing practise
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David Gutmann
23.07.2022 Todays gesture drawing exercise. I messed up the 10 min one pretty badly but hey...
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@dawi
Hi, this is some of the work, I did 30 seconds and 2 minutes , would love feedback on what I can work on and what is working.
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David Gutmann
I noticed to mayor problems with your drawings. The first is that you often times draw the contour of the figure rather then the gesture. The second one is youre line quality. The line quality thing is easy to fix. simply prioritze quality over quantaty. If you have to think about a line for a cuple of seconds before you make it this is completly fine. It is always preferable to only have one good and confident line that describes the arm rather than 4 hastly drawn ones. Remember even Stans 30 sek poses look like stick figures (with gesture of course) The other issue that you draw the contour rather then the gesture is a lot harder to fix. You might want to rewatch the video but honestly speaking this concept simply needs a lot of practice and I cant think of any good tip to solve this for you.
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@epptain
Hi! Wanted to share my progress. These are my 30sec / 2min sheets of last week, when I started this course. I did 10 or 20 of each, every day. I think my 30secs are quite stick-figurey still.
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David Gutmann
I think the reason youre 30 seks look "stick-figurey" is that you often draw the neck-shoulder line and the pelvis line (dunno how you call that) as a straigt while in reality they are almost always slightly curved. You could also try to youse longer/ viewer lines to discribe your figure. The line that indicates the gesture of the torso for instance can flow in to the leg in some poses. The same line that indcates an arm can also make up the neck-shoulder line and so on and so forth. You could also experiment if exagerating the gesture will give you better results.
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Daniela Cuéllar
Hi, I'm new and I want to show you my exercises, the first three are 30 seconds and the last one is 2 minutes
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David Gutmann
30sek: Generally speaking you did a good job you communicate what the figure is doing which is not an easy thing to do when you only have 30 seks. One might argue that you could have pushed the gesture further and past what the refrence shows but this is not mandatorry and comes naturally as you gain experience. (at least in my opinion) What I did notice is that youre not always sticking to the mayor gestures of the body. You for example drew two bumps for flank flank fat in pose 13 wich are not part of the main gesture and therefore shouldnt be included in a 30 sek pose. One might argue that the left bump is legitimate since it plays in to the concept of stretch and squish (dunno if you learnd about this yet) but the right bump should definetly be part of one big curve going from the bottom of the hip all the way up to the shoulder. I also noticed that you drew circles to indicate joints. While I dont think that it's harmfull to youre drawing I dont see any value in it either and the amount of marks you can make in a 30 sek pose is limited. 2min: What I like is that you seem to adhere to the first long gesture line that you send down the body. I frequently mess this up so good job on that. What I feel is missing in youre 2 min poses is structure. When doing 2 min poses you have enough time to spare some thought to spend some time thiking about the 3 demensionality of the figure. Im not shure how far you are in the course but later on Stan will introduce methods on how to add simplified 3d forms of the pelvis and rib cage to youre gesture. Once you understand those it becomes a breeze to add the limbs and head to the figure while maintaining its gesture. If you havent gone over this yet I promise it will help you.
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@gixorn
Here are some of my mannequin sketches. Any feedback is welcome.
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David Gutmann
As far as I can tell the left ones are really good. You seem to have an understanding of how the forms relate in 3d and took notice of the landmarks. The right one is deffinetly out of proportion. The arms are too massive the lower legs are too long and the upper legs to thin. Also if you look at how the legs atach to the pelvis you will notice that they are not glued to the bottom of it but flow in to it (picture below) I also noticed that your necks seem a little long to me but this might be an illusion caused by the fact that you didnt draw the secondary masses of it. To finish things up I'd advise you to work on a bigger scale. It looks like youre working on din A4 or A3 and you youse only a fraction of the space it provides per mannequinn. I myself have worked in my anatomy and figure studys at that scale for a long time and that makes a lot of sense since working smaller is a lot more forgiving since mistakes are less obvious in a small drawing. I howerver realized that taking as much as a whole A3 page per drawing really improved my learning speed. It forces you to think about every line that you draw and makes scribbling away a lot harder. A nice bonus is that the finished drawings look a lot better and you can go in to more detail. The downside is that it takes a lot longer. I hope that reply wasnt too long and atleast a bit helbpful
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David Gutmann
here is my take on the assignment.
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Sandra Süsser
Spine analysis assignment complete :)
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David Gutmann
those look fine to me. You got the shape of the rip cage and pelvis and know how to rotate them in space. What I noticed is that in Pic 1 top right corner example 3 seems to have a falsely rotated rib cage. If you look at the pose you can see that the model turns slightly to the right wich means the spine should move to the left. Yours howerver is rotated to the right. You have also stiffened the pose in pic one example one. The rib cage placement seem to be alright but the angle at wich it connects to the pelvis is very close to being vertical in your drawing while the refrence is way more aslant.
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David Gutmann
looks to me like you did a good job. Only thing I notice is that some of those are prette stiff. Notice that you can introduce gesture to these Mannequinns by squishing, stretching and bending the 3d forms
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David Gutmann
2 attempt after watching the critique and the demmo.
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My take before watching the demo & critique
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