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Exploring Diversity in Art with Jennifer Wang – Draftsmen S2E23

September 22, 20204 Comments

Guest artist Jennifer Wang joins the podcast to discuss gender, race and sexuality in art. Marshall and Stan ask for her opinion on a previous caller’s question about the sexualization of women in art. The broad topic opens up other cultural conversations as Jennifer talks about the challenges of getting representation in media, cultural appropriation and more.

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References and books

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Jennifer Wang’s Instagram
50 Shades of Grey
A Portrait of a Lady on Fire
Midnight Sun
Isle of Dogs
Ghost in the Shell
Breakfast at Tiffany’s
The Princess and the Frog
Cultural Appropriation vs Appreciation by Lauren Panepinto
Anthony Francisco
Elements: Earth edited by Taneka Stott
Mooncakes by Wendy Xu and Suzanne Walker
Ironheart by Eve Ewing
Laura Dean Keeps Breaking Up with Me by Mariko Tamaki
What We Don’t Talk About by Charlot Kristensen
Displacement by Kiku Hughes

Referenced Artists:

Frank Frazetta

frank frazetta artwork women

Jean-Léon Gérôme

jean léon gérôme painting

Eugène Delacroix

eugene delecroix various paintings of women

Kerry James Marshall

kerry james marshall artwork

Kehinde Wiley

kehinde wiley artwork

Goofus and Gallant

goofus and gallant

Kim Jung Gi

kim jung gi various pages of artwork


sakimichan digital artwork

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  1. Graeme says:

    It’s disappointing to see identity politics begin to make its way into art like this. We hear about racism this, sexism that, every kind of “-ism” *every day* in the news. Art is a great way to escape all that.

    I’m sorry, Proko, but please miss me with the identity politics. Your content has always been fantastic, but I am not a fan of this direction and find myself considering alternatives for art content that don’t bring politics into the hobby I love.

    • Mattias says:

      Fair enough if you don’t like it, but don’t think politics is something new in art. Art has been political for thousands of years, regardless if it is your hobby or not.

      I’m glad for the podcast, because the comments on Youtube put a light on how touchy and incapable of standing a difference of opinion some people are.

      • Pizzalicious says:

        I hear what you’re saying. There’s politics, messages, and meaning in art throughout time. Though I would actually use touchy or sensitive to describe the hyper political correctness that’s all around us in society today. My problem with this “woke” ideology is that it’s projecting a contorted subtext onto things. An example could be the “Charging Bull” on Wall Street and the “Fearless Girl”. Using terms like the “Male gaze” seems distorted also. There definitely can be an objectification of women in art, no doubt, but someone can easily accuse an artist of being a misogynist these days, even if that was the furthest thing from the artist’s intention. Today’s type of political correctness is making people fearful of being called a misogynist, sexist, racist, bigot, etc. And I think this is the biggest reason why so many people are reacting negatively to this particular podcast. Understandably; art is very personal.

        As culturally sensitive as someone can be, an individual can only truly perceive the world through their own eyes. And I think it’s a great thing that art allows us to see how others think and interpret things whether it’s socially acceptable or not.

        Anyways, blah blah blah. I agree with you though, I’m actually glad for this podcast, because it made me reflect heavily on this topic.

      • Echo says:

        It’s not a “difference of opinion” when it’s a lecture by someone who demands compliance. You should just ignore it and never give them the power to force their ideology on others.

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