Hallo @Proko Thanks to your fantastic drawing basic course (gesture, rythm) and some years experience of drawing as a hobby I think I understand the gesture phase (see attachments). But what is comining next? In one of the attachments I added the muscles on top like you didand did and some core shadow drawing (with krita on PC and pen display). I know that I don't want draw hyperrealisitc or fine art, but the figure should be belivable and should have a good gesture. I think my goal is something between Illustration and semi realistic and sometimes abstract. Can't describe it yet excatly. Man thanks for your course and online youtube videos Best regards georgerabbitearl (on Instagram)