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[Need more advices] What I do?!
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Mariana Santos
For those who don't know me, I decided to take a new artistic path. After rethinking a lot about my art style, getting frustrated seeing the artists on Instagram and getting too inspired by the artists on ArtStation, I decided that I wanted to radically change my art style. I'm currently doing gesture drawings, I have some knowledge in proportion and anatomy (because I've drawn manga for many years), but you know when you feel the urge to make a more complete drawing but refuse to do it because you want to change your style? Yeah, that's my problem and I wanted your help :') Any advice is welcome ;')
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Vincentius Sesarius
Others have pointed out great points below, but there's one thing I can add to that. It may sound philosophical, but actually it's an extremely practical gist: finish your each and every artwork. I've been there, in place like you're feeling in right now, looking up to other artists and they made me want to change my art style every other week so that I can get "better". This strategy turns out to be less efficient, almost an antithesis, to be actually better at making art. Not only that, this strategy also made me feel burn and stretch out, and it wasn't a comfortable feeling. Then I figured the gist: finish your each and every artwork (I forgot who said it first, but it does stick), and from that moment I started seeing actual progress to actually get better at making art. You see, there's something magical about finishing your artwork. It's so magical that many people refuse, out of fear, to finish their artwork, making them leave hundreds if not thousands of work-in-progress. I can't really describe the magic of it, but I'm sure if you keep coming at finishing your artwork, you will feel and know what I'm talking about. It's the fear, not the want to change your style, that makes you refuse to finish your artwork. Conquer the fear and your art style will flourish.
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Mariana Santos
A lot of people say that, i honestly have difficulties in finishing some of the drawings i started... Thanks for saying that :)
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john jo ong
Hi Mariana, I can give you some advice or my 2 cents about this topic. I will send some video link and timestamp too to save time. I think it depends on what profession you want to be, for example for industrial design(concept design or concept art) the style is not so important, because they are after for solutions and how to solve the problem i.e. design thinking. In fact if you look at brainstorm or fzd work they all look the same. For illustrations yes the style matter because they are after for the aesthetic look and how it feels. To answer your question above, I think the most important thing is to be honest with yourself first. like know what level you are at and know what are your weakness are. So for example you if you feel the you lack fundamentals the style issue is just secondary to that. Now, Once you rule out the none essentials. you can now plan a schedule on how to tackle those weaknesses. I believe that when someone ask what brush did you use or how to find my art style most likely they lack some fundamentals. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I notice. I totally agree on what they said here that style takes time. The only difference is that those artist that are very good and has a distinct style because they drew since they were kids. Also don't forget who are your Art Heroes. Who were the first artist that influence you to become an artist and who were the artist that influence you to buy your first tablet. Don't be afraid to copy your favorite artist style. For example if your favorite artist is Loish don't feel guilty when someone said you art looks like so Loishy. Because I notice that in Facebook or Instagram so many times. mostly teenagers get discourage. What do you mean? So, I should stop drawing now because my art looks like loish? Instead, treat them as your guiding influence or your north star. Because you are still learning no big deal as long as you are learning. Don't immediately believe what they said just because they are working in the industry or running a school. There is no right or wrong when it comes to learning. Also, I don't know if you notice that there are so many young artist now that is very good already because of Accelerated learning. They learn so fast because they mimic there favorite artist style through Patreon. Nothing like this 10 years ago. Many thought that only study artist that are dead. not true at all. as I said there is not right or wrong. As promise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xdwZG3EImo&t=2855s 33:24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoQBxYt2sVQ 53:15
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Mariana Santos
Thank you for the advices, but I don't like to copy other styles (I can't even copy other styles right, I've always been by myself) But I'll see this videos ;)
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Gabriel Kahn
Hey there! To be honest you really just need to draw. It doesn't matter what, just do it. You shouldn't care about your art style, it will slowly develop and the main thing that has an impact on it is the art you consume. Find professionals whose work you like, and maybe even ask them about their way of working. That's probably the easiest way to become a better artist. All I can say is that you shouldn't care about social media. To be successful there you have to be consistent for years and you are only just starting to walk that path.
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Mariana Santos
I think this too. I think I ended up being "corrupted" by using social media and forgetting the true essence of making art for love.
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Dan B
I might be entirely wrong here, but it sounds like you have perhaps built your style around bad habits and shortcuts, and so while you are good at your style, you have not developed as much as you would like? If this is correct, I would most importantly look at what skills you want to be strong at and focus on building them and don’t just pick another ‘style’ to copy. I.e, if you want to be better at figure drawing, learn anatomy, form, shading, etc and study from those masters, but don’t just think ‘I want to do Bridgman drawings...’ If that’s not it at all, apologies and please share a bit more about where you want to end up :)
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Mariana Santos
Maybe that's right. Learning in manga can be faster.  I myself learned using a series of shortcuts because in manga you don't necessarily need to learn anatomy as in realistic drawing for example... I have my drawing style in the manga, but then I realized that the only thing I wanted to keep is the eyes, but I felt it was not what I really wanted to learn... When I started digital art I wanted to make drawings like Tsitra360, I always wanted to do something more realistic, but I was always afraid of making mistakes, so I decided to do manga, but I feel like what I do has no life, so I decided to make this drastic change.
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Yiming Wu
My general advice would be finding out what art meant to you. Why are you doing this instead of e.g. playing with video games or hanging out with your friends. You got to have something that's making you choose to do art right? So do express that feeling. Don't let what's on Artstation or Instagram direct your way. Unless your goal is to make money doing popular art commissions, well if that's the goal then sure following the trend will benefit you the most, but you need to be clear why you are doing things in the first place.
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Mariana Santos
Art for me has a much greater meaning. I used to draw a lot in my teen age as I was bullied, so a lot of drawings back then contained gore and blood. Despite this, these days I tend to play video games every day, but always with that weight in the awareness that I could be studying art... I want in the future to earn money with what I do, but money for me is just a bonus, because I never really wanted to make commissions (maybe out of insecurity). For me, art is a way of creating the universe, and I have a lot of things to do... It really inspired me to see the professionals at ArtStation and I realized that it's at their level that I wanted to be right now.
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Serena Marenco
Hi Mariana, I think we've already talked a little about this: instagram is only good for making your liver hurt unless you can only look at what other people do as something pleasant to look at rather than as a goal. On instagram, especially, there's a lot of trending going on so the style that's popular today might be outdated in a year's time. A few years ago when the Loish phenomenon broke out everyone was trying to draw like her and now we have a lot of bland clones (sure, they draw and colour well but the first thing you think of when you see their work is "Oh! It's Loish!". I don't think that's what you're aiming for). So style is something you come to gradually, experimenting, trying to find a way of making images that you like. It has to be something that, first of all, you're able to do with ease and find enjoyable because even if it becomes a job your main goal has to be that you don't want to burn down the studio after a couple of days :U Let me give you some advice, which comes from my own experience (these things were the same long before social media) When people say not to follow trends, it's not to stand out (which in the end is another way of following trends) but because trends change all the time and last very little. I was on the art show circuit, pushed by my teachers who were trying to introduce me to gallery owners. In fact, I was not free to paint what I wanted because I had to please my teachers, art critics and gallery owners, it was very frustrating. I came out of it after 5 years, with a colossal nervous breakdown, literally telling them all to fuck off. So, first of all, study, take courses, watch tutorials, learn as much as you can, always (I'm 44 years old and I keep studying and updating), follow artists you like but don't feel in competition with them because, rest assured, they feel the same way about someone else. It's not a competition, because if it was, it would be the damn Olympics (I went from the regional market of my country to the world with the advent of the internet. Like starting out competing in parochial races and suddenly finding yourself up against Bolt! Doesn't make much sense, does it). So, find your stride and find something you enjoy doing and in the way you find fun. Thinking about "manga" style is also misleading because within the manga market there are thousands of styles, from realistic to super deformed. So don't worry about style for now, it's something that comes on its own, with time. Style is that whole set of solutions that you decide to adopt to solve problems, it evolves over time, as you learn new things. And when you think you have found one, don't allow it to limit you: if at some point you realise that a certain solution is better than the one you were applying, don't have problems changing. In this way you will draw and paint in a way that is uniquely yours. :)
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Mariana Santos
I understand... unfortunately many artists I know ended up competing against each other instead of helping each other, so I was always afraid to ask for advice as many were rude to me (and this only made my insecurity worse). On Instagram, I was even accused of plagiarism for trying different styles to find my own, and this made me develop anxiety disorder and worsened my depression. I really don't feel good about some things in my original style (like the lack of movement and scenery), but I hate following trends, doing the same memes, DTIYS and etc, I really want to be as original as possible, do what I want to without having to follow rules... I think for a long time I ended up intoxicating myself on the internet and social networks, as many who claim to be illustrators actually copy other people's drawings and say they use references (they don't even know what is a reference!), so I ended up with the feeling that no one liked what I did, just because I didn't draw famous anime characters... These last few weeks, I didn't even access Instagram, I left it well aside so that I could focus on my studies and not be influenced by other people's styles. I feel a little better :')
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James Doane
You just need to do a lot of different experiments trying different styles until you start to find what fits you the best. Though I believe I have found the style that works best for me, I still do some experiments trying new things. It takes time, but that is the only way to really find your style.
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Mariana Santos
I understood, but this is something I have already done (and still do today...). The only thing I might want to keep off my original design is the eyes. I don't know if what I'm going to say is true, but I'm afraid that the more I design my old style, the more in the comfort zone I'll be...
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