Dr. Jane Goodall (Feedback wanted)
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Scott Lewis
After drawing litearlly hundreds of heads over the past year I decided to start trying actual protraits. The first was a personal hero, Dr. Jane Goodall. I know what bugs me about the finished work, but curious what feedback others might offer to help me improve.
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Zoungy Kligge
Hi Scott, I did some draw-overs, just the start of the process to adjust proportions and perspective first. The main thing I noticed was that her features needed to be shifted in perspective and to the right. Note the arrows.... the nose, dimple, mouth shifting right. On your version, the head itself is in 3/4 view, but facial features are beginning to slide around to the front view, which gives the impression of a less prominent nose. Some of the shifts involved turning circles more into ellipses (irises, orbital socket). I made the eye socket on the right side thinner, changed proportion of lip sizes. I tried to use as much of your own drawing as possible. you are right that a lot of rendering has taken place and that shifting proportions now would be a lot of work. It could possibly be done on this one or if you prefer try a second version. Hope this helps. Good luck!
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Scott Lewis
This is great feedback. Thanks for taking the time to do the draw-overs. That demonstrates very clearly what you are saying. I'm sure I will be trying this one again. She has such a great face with all of those lines and this photo has some great contrast and details. This perspective issue seems to come up a lot in my drawings so I think going back to basics and just practicing a lot of heads in perspective might be helpful. Thanks again.
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shackman
(I'm not that good, take everything with a grain of salt) I think adding more values can help to push the forms a lot more. Kinda interesting to see that in your progress, in the first one the chin is blocky and masculine, but the shading then rounds it off. For example her upper lip is a tilted plane and becomes quite dark where it meets the lower lip. I think this is especially true for older people, so shading there could add to it. But of course the whole piece is pretty good as it is, if I had known how old she is by now I would have recognized her...
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Scott Lewis
@Nicole Lee this is the reference photo.
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Rebecca Shay
What bugs you about the finished work? And are there examples of the style you're going after? It looks unfinished to me but it could be of a certain style that I'm not aware of.
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Scott Lewis
It's definitely unfinished because I'm not sure how to proceed. TBH, I'm not exactly sure what bugs me. I think the middle one looks better than the one on the right which is, theoretically, further along. Maybe I need to go much darker in the shadows and push the depth a lot more but I just don't see how to move forward. It also doesn't look quite like her.
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