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I think, in a sense, you have to critique yourself. Notice what you need to fix on the re-draw, but also take what you did correct from your previous. I tried redrawing one of my ribcage exercises, and fixed what I was trying to, but in the process made more mistakes elsewhere. If you could explain what "worse" means as well, I think I could help you more.
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@miaowen
When I redraw, I try to correct upon the original mistakes, but I guess I become so focused on getting to area of the original mistake that I start making mistakes in the basic foundations. For example, if I made a mistake in the pelvis, I become careless drawing the head/shoulders/upper torso b/c I just want to get to the pelvis area. Then I step back and notice that the overall alignment is totally wrong, whereas in my first figure, I did it correctly
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@miaowen
According to Proko's video on "Deliberate Practice" (https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/deliberate-practice-the-secret-to-getting-good-fast/discussions), he recommends redrawing a figure multiple times while correcting mistakes. I've noticed, however, that when I try to redraw the same figure multiple times, my figures get progressively worse, with me making more and more careless mistakes. Could this be because my brain has already processed the figure, and thus stops truly "seeing" it? What methods can I try to fix this?
Steve Lenze
Hey miaowen, The pelvis can be particularly difficult to figure out. The reason is because of its downward tilt and the different ways the legs point in any given pose. I did a quick diagram of what is happening in this pose. I also added a view from the front to show you what the legs are doing. I hope this helps :)
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@miaowen
Oh my gosh thank you so much!! Yes your diagrams (and actually all of the diagrams I've seen you post on this forum) are extremely helpful :) It's very educational seeing the pelvic box from that extra view. I was confused earlier about how the legs were affecting the tilt, but now it's super clear!
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@miaowen
Sometimes I get lost when trying to figure out the angle and dimensions of the pelvic box. Normally I try to use the ASIS or the beginnings of the legs to find the box's front plane and tilt, but in this case the left ASIS is completely covered by her right leg. I am also confused as to whether the box is angled toward the left or the right. At first I thought it was tilted to the left (so that there's a side plane showing near the torso box), but I noticed later that there's a fold near the legs that might be the pubic area -- which means the plane should be showing on the left side instead? What are some ways to accurately check the pelvic box angles when some of the landmarks are covered? Any feedback is helpful!
Levi Chalot
It sounds like you may have 2 problems. Problem 1 - You have trouble seeing larger shapes. Solution 1 - Do some practice or warm-ups on more simple forms. Focus on "Macro" studies - larger form shapes and avoid being sucked-in to details. Stay "Zoomed Out" literally and mentally. Anatomy is 100% going to have some of the most abstract and challenging shapes you'll encounter. Squint at your reference or put it further away from you so you can only see or focus on those larger shapes. Problem 2- Eraser Discipline, the erase becomes an enabler of laziness and carelessness. Solution 2- Practice doing more "ghost strokes" as in- practice the stroke above the paper/tablet before you lay it in. Also practice longer length strokes. Be more mindful of taking strokes. This not only makes you better and gives better results, but it helps staying in flow-state with drawing- that autopilot feeling. Doing some warmups (Regular polyhedron are a great way to warmup line, form, and shading) before attempting whatever you're drawing can help put in that frame of mind so that you're feeling deliberate in actions and confident. If you're really struggling with something, there's no shame in erasing- it's absolutely necessary to save paper and erasing skills will become absolutely just as needed in rendering as drawing itself. If you go very, very light with the pencil however- you will be able to put down as many lines as you need and not feel confused or want to just guess and check.
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@miaowen
Thank you very much! I've been using your tips and find that my accuracy has improved a lot!
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@miaowen
I am currently stuck on the robo-bean and mannequin stage of the proko course. I have difficulty seeing the larger shapes and frequently clutter my lines until I get distracted by my previous attempts. At the same time, when I start allowing an eraser, I get careless and start blindly drawing lines in a "guess and check" manner rather than actually thinking before drawing. What is the recommended eraser-usage for my current stage of learning anatomy fundamentals?
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