Zoungy Kligge
Zoungy Kligge
Pennsylvania
Teaching Artist at Goggleworks
Zoungy Kligge
I was referring to a technique where a solid patch of gouache is applied and then removed in sections with a cotton bud, giving a cloudy sort of look
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Zoungy Kligge
Hi Tiffanie, have you heard of gouache technique that is primarily subtractive? You start with a solid mass and remove gouache? Any thoughts about that? Thank you.
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Josh Sunga
Hey @Zoungy Kligge ! Thanks for sharing- this style is awesome! I looked up the artist and tried to implement more of that graphic movie poster feel. I know you only spent an hour on this- but if you'd like to push it further I think the main thing is clarifying the silhouette and figuring out how exactly the cloak would look. There's nothing wrong with soft/lost edges in a painting but one of the main attractions to the Bama art is how clear each monster shows on each page. I did a paintover mainly to create value contrasts and bring out that silhouette! But again, thanks for sharing! There's a lot to learn from those monster kits!
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PS I should add, Bama based the early box designs on movie production stills. When people were disappointed that the model kit didn't look like the box, they began designing the box image to look like the toy instead
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Zoungy Kligge
Nice! Good observation. Indeed the lost edges were one of my time savers, preventing me from having to figure out how this would translate into a hard plastic object. Including the fire hands... would they be clear plastic? They had a glow plastic series but not a fiber optic lighting type. If I want to take it next level what I'd do is actually sculpt the model from clay, then light, photograph and paint it! Maybe one day. Thanks for taking the time to look, respond, and paint over
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this was a really good one. I thought it might be hard to digest but instead it was invigorating. On a scale of 🥞 to 🍣 I rate this a 🥓
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Luigi Manese
I think this is one of my favorite concepts in composition because it gives you a lot of freedom to experiment with a certain mood. Here's on I did a bit more recently where I did have a specific metaphor in mind...it isn't exactly subtle so I'll give bonus points if you can guess what it was haha
Zuriel Illustration (fin image adjusted)
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Zoungy Kligge
Wow that's so well done, the statuary in perspective! It appears to be in an upside down cathedral? Can you tell me more about the image? Intriguing
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Zoungy Kligge
Hi there, is anyone a fan of the James Bama monster art from the 1960s monster kits by Aurora Plastics? I designed this quickly (an hour) in that style, for fun.
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When I paint plein air I find myself muddling around in middle values, trying to grasp and translate the light pattern right in front of me. Can you talk about ways to quickly launch yourself into a fairly accurate, overall value pattern so that you can get to the refinement stage sooner? Also do you think it would be interesting to compare and contrast the plein air vs urban sketching traditions? Thanks!
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For me to visualize this I think it would help to think of the 360 degree circle around me, on the floor, if I were in the center. 180 degrees exist in front of me, and of that 180, 60 is a wedge that's the center one-third. I could use my arms to replicate this imaginary edge, to approximate what area of my field of vision to draw from observation A simpler answer is, just draw... and if the edges are way too distorted then either crop the outer parts, or of it's two-point or three-point, move the vanishing points farther away
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Alexander Andreasson
Never done any anatomy before so this is the first step! Should I do the other pictures as well or do I simply move on? I honestly dont feel like im learning too much because I have no real idea what muscles / bones im drawing. Rather I'm tracing whatever the surface shows me. Feedback always welcome!
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Zoungy Kligge
I see you have the figure course as well. I've heard Stan say, start with the figure course first, do anatomy second. Maybe that would help
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Peter Haller
Hello together. Here is my version of "the tank" 😃 I have been drawing seriously now for 6 month and focused mainly on head and figure drawing. I am enjoying the process. At this point I want to say thank you to @Stan Prokopenko for all the amazing and fun content. I intentionally exaggerated the anatomy here which was fun 💪😃 I know there is a lot to improve. Anyways I am going to do some more drawings of this style and would appreciate any critique. What should I focus on more the next time? Thanks in advance. Have a great day.
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Zoungy Kligge
I agree with Nicole, both on the good qualities and on suggestions. The range of value contrast is really nice. I'd suggest the legs look like they need to be longer, and the center of balance is off; the weight of the torso is convincing, but too far to the left of the legs, so it seems to float in the left space rather than being supported by the legs beneath it.
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Blue tack is great for removing stuck on graphite in small spaces
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do you ever use workable fixative in your process? to help build tooth
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Zoungy Kligge
Hi Stan! I asked Dorian this, would be interested in your take. To reduce shine and burnishing would you say try to arrive at correct value early, using correct pencil hardness early, with fewer layers?
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Zoungy Kligge
That's cool, I just wanted another POV. Thanks for your thoughts. Burnishing by the way is that hard pushing of the lead until the fibers are crushed
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Nicole Lee
Hello all, I have finished the course awhile ago but try to practice more with other reference photos. Below is my sketch with reference attached. It would be greatly appreciated if someone could provide critiques and feedbacks! Thank you very much!
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Zoungy Kligge
Many good things about this, it's a pretty close likeness end I enjoy the way the shadows and core shadows are constructed. The main constructive feedback I would suggest is 1) the perspective is different (horizontal construction lines on the face should tip down left to right, but in yours the features are tipping up). 2) the plane of the temple and side of face between jaw and cheekbone should be darker than forehead and the front of the cheek 3) increase ear size and take some time to observe the inner structures of the ear. Good luck
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Zoungy Kligge
Is there any specific goal tied to one or more image, that you'd like people to comment on? It might be easier to suggest improvements once we know what you're striving to do a little better
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Zoungy Kligge
To answer your question, yes it is a pleasing composition! As for help and suggestions I offer this draw-over. I've turned the salamander the other way to imply escape, left to right, and reshaped the body to follow the action line started by the falling leaves. I've also tipped the entire composition to turn all verticals into diagonals. Adjusted grasses to be more menacing. Simplified some value relationships and cleared out space to increase contrast in the main squirrel/moon area and the lizard's face/eye area, to emphasize the relationship between them. Does that help? PS my album where I have these pictures filed is a hidden album. If you can not see the images please tell me.
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jdn
omg! so much is going on all at once truly talented. love all of the colors . and dang that sky. man im just about speechless. great work would love to see what else you'll do next. ✌😉
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Zoungy Kligge
Thank you! The sky was at first an accident. I had blue, but I swung the hue slider around to see what else was possible, and I just really liked the yellow. I think mainly for the value contrast it offered. Have you heard of the metaphor-composition connection before? Have you tried it?
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Zoungy Kligge
Did anyone listen to the Draftsmen episode where Marshall introduces the book Picture This by Molly Bang? He talks about metaphor as composition... a gown is a waterfall, the stage design is like garbage, etc. I found it very inspiring. I'll attach an image that I made for a Proko challenge, where I was using metaphor prior to hearing it described that way. In the image I was going for a pleasant, mid century, Disney feeling. Everything harmonious, agreeable shapes and movements, easy, flowing. Feel free to add images in the comments where you tried to carry a consistent visual, emotional metaphor through a piece of work.
proko challenge 05.2020 inanimate
Zoungy Kligge
I just did this quick draw over with some ideas. Hope it helps. I mainly changed the eye size, tried to make the lighting consistent, and give shape to the hair, while trying to keep the face 'the same person' as yours
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