I am from this day forth done with art. IT IS a talent and can not be learned.
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Morphex
After almost two years of hard work and all i get is this. while others master art in two i cant even do a gesture that looks good after 2. This has never been about skill! This is a talent game and i am done pretending its otherwise. The only ones that say art is a skill are people with talent. But never mind i will just go and play a good game. Atleast i can be good at that. This has all been a huge wast of time and money for nothing ((examples of talent)) https://www.youtube.com/@niroxious https://www.youtube.com/@ddmarkk https://www.youtube.com/@YotsumiShiro/shorts All ever wanted was to be able to draw like this! But u can see now that it was just a dream, nothing more. ((pls dont tell me the old stupid clishay "comparison is the thief of joy")) We all know that talent is real and that its all that matters. some dreams are just never ment to be. All the perspective practise, the cubes, the cyliders, the gestures,the line practice, Faces that i have drawn. All amounted to Nothing like the people i just shared with you. That mastered all of it in two years flat. and i cant even do a gesture well after soon two years.
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Don't get discouraged, your work has progressed a lot! Go back and look at your first pieces, and compare them to now. It takes a lot of time and input, but you'll continue see your improvement.
Here's a relevant Proko video where Stan looks back through some of his first sketch books. Hope this helps!
https://www.proko.com/lesson/you-dont-need-talent-ill-prove-it
Heyo, its entirely possible you might have Adhd or something else blocking your way outside of the course (that was the case for me so pardon my projection). Taking care of yourself and making sure you are enjoying the steps along the way are the only way to get better. It could also be that proko's teaching methods arent for you - though its not popular to admit, proko's methods ALONE doesnt work for a lot of people. Regardless of the reasons for that, Sinix design and others have helped me get the most out of proko's lessons by giving me permission to work in ways I find more intuitive and motivating. Heads up and enjoy the little steps. Art can and should be fun, regardless of your goals (IMO) .
As for talent. I think talent is learning/knowledge we dont understand yet. A lot of it boils down to developing intuitive kenetic memory and confident mark placement so that you dont have to think about the lines as you make them, and you can spend more mental resources on designing, understanding and learning. Good news is that that sort of stuff can be learned! but its a personal journey. I cant help you feel your own body and manage your mental resources efficiently.
Sincerely,
someone who has been there for far longer than you have, suffering from a similar angst, and got better (:
p.s. good luck!
i would like to say i am sry for my behavior. This post is kinda childish and just wrong. I am a very negative person and constantly clank down on myself and tbh i dont want to give upp but i am just frustrated with my lack of growth.
I know i am not the only one that feels this way. And its tough for everyone not just me.
I will not make this kind of post again.
I dont know if i will continue to strive for improvement.
once again i am sry for this post.
from now on. if i am to post it will be to ask for feedback.
Glad you realised this. I seen this post yesterday and nearly commented, but I couldn't articulate what I wanted to say without being crude myself, so I waited. I'm happy I didn't need to voice my opinion :)
Do continue though, maybe not right away but soon, before years go by and you realise you have lost time like I have. Been at this nearly 20 years (of bad, on and off studying) and your drawings are better than mine. Just think of how great it will be at the end and that you owe it to yourself to do this.
Art is a marathon and life is a grind. Take a short break and focus on something fun. As long as you don’t burn out and give up completely there’ll be progress, even if it doesn’t feel like it.
Hang in there and take care of yourself. I wish you the best.
In my personal opinion, you’re hitting the point of burnout and you need to focus on taking a short break or doing something fun.
Your comparisons are apples-to-oranges right now. If you’re going to compare you need to do it with similar mediums. Digital, especially finished work, isn’t going to compare to pencil and paper. Digital inking is going to be cleaner and look better than pencil on paper will in real life. I’d also be wary when you don’t see what references another artist is using for their pictures.
Gesture is just a spoke in the wheel for creating better drawings. From what I see, your gesture is great. It’s fluid, expressive, and structural enough to get across the figure. But gesture alone isn’t going to compare one-to-one against finished digital work.
If you’re going to compare your gesture to those videos, make sure you pause at the right time and compare your gesture to the under-drawing before the inking starts. From the shorts and videos I’ve watched, the under-drawings are messy with numerous overlapping lines and scribbled sections. Compared to that, your gesture is much better. But it won’t compare to the finished product at the end of the video.
I found myself missing the forest for the trees and hyper focused on one thing at times. Missing the bigger picture that I wasn’t progressing because I was stuck in a rut when I needed to branch out.
My advice would be to clear your head. Take a short rest. Reflect on why you decided to take up drawing to start with and what you want to accomplish.
