Art parents
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Manuel
Greetings fellow artists! I saw today Stan and Marshall's Draftmen show ep05 of s01 "Adopting Art Parents to Develop Your Style" it was tremendously illuminating. How all this time, in search of forming my style, do I not reflect on the fact that one learns and absorbs a little of all the artists that we like or catch our attention?. As a self-taught artist I always navigate freely through all the information and illustrations, without closing myself to a particular school or styles, maybe , unconsciously I choose my favorite patterns and tools but never paying special attention to what things of this artist influenced me the most. Today I'm going to start to be more vigilant about what things I really want to use as communication tools and separate it from the things that I may like but are not really what, so to speak, ignite my passion when it comes to drawing or painting. I also proposed as an exercise to explore ,among all, the many books that I have of classic painters, films, video games, the current artists that I follow most in the networks, and see from which I really want to take artistic elements that contribute to my creations, basically order my internal register of styles and ways of making images, with the hope of being able to take another step in my search for my own style. In the Draftmen video, Marshall, at the end asks the audience and I would like to ask the same thing to the active proko community, Do you know who your art parents are? Do you know what elements do you take from each of them?
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Oh sweet an excuse to gush about my favorite artist. At the start of art journey I had a lot of "art parents" but as my journey went through the artist that mainly influence me trickle down as I realize that their style did not match what I was trying to say.But here are the art parents that I consider the most prominent: -Dean Cornwell;at the start of my journey I was a massive Dean Cornwell fan,I actually just wanted to be a cornwell copy at the start and want to only paint like him.I was obssesed with his composition,his use of thick paint and especially his vignetting.I think I only looked at his artwork for nearly 2 years just trying to copy his result(I even had an album in my ipad of 270 piece and fragment of his art).But at some point in time,I finally did a painting in his style I was happy with but had no desire to do it again.It made me realize that even though I still enjoy his composition and vignetting,I did not share the same vision and mindset as him.I did not enjoy working in thick paint and my idea also didn't fit with it.So after 2 years I largely abandoned him,though I still take his composition and vignetting,as stated above. -Andrew Wyeth; Wyeth made me realize the thing I was missing in my artwork,with Cornwell I was just trying to study his technical skill and his great craftsmanship.Andrew's work made me realize that it is equally important to think of the mood and emotion of the painting.("Christina's world" and "that gentleman" really hit me when I first found them).It also made me realize how important it is to leave out elements in a picture and let the audience participate in the painting.He also inspired silent hill 2,the game that resonate with me the most in term of feeling.To this day I still played "Never forgive me,never forget me" and "white noiz"when I finish a painting to see if I get the mood right.(By this point I pretty much gauge how succesful a picture is by how much it fits "never forgive me,never forget me") -James Bama (particullary his western work);Bama is the artist I am most obssesed with right now,Unlike the first two,I love Bama both for his craftsmanship and mood.His use of thin oil paint is so unlike what's anything right now.He paint in a photorealistic style,yet there's still loosenes in the fabric of the clothes.Reproduction on the internet does not do him justice,it doesn't reveal all his subtle layering and thinnest of the paint.I recommend buying his book,the art of James Bama if you are interested in his images. -Adam Hughes;I've found his work about a year ago and couldn't get enough of it.Whenever I am struggling on the shape design of a character or a background,I would look at Hughes work,There's a cover he did for the 2018 superman's run-I think it was issue 6-where he simplified the mouth and the left eye as 2 simple lines,yet he still uphold the structure of the faces,he indicate the cheecks and subtle muscle anaotmy with his shapes.It is damn amazing and it made me realize that you can have both simplicity and solid face structure in the same painting. -Zun;not what people consider a great draftsment,but goddamn does he make some terrific character design and ideas.The touhou series are games that I played and instantly make me want to illustrate them.It's a series where there's barely a story but enough fun character interaction and world building to put yourselves into it.It's a series where if you make fanwork, you can played up the funness and lightheartedness of the characters (Sr pelo's touhou parody is a good example.)Or you can go to the complete opposite and make it depressing (I.E. Flan want to die) and both would still fit the tone of the series.This is not to mention the hundreds of musician he inspired and the countless catchy song that was created. Those are the big ones,then I wanted to put Takehiko inoue,Naoki Urasawa, Satoshi Kon and that great lineage started by Katsuhiro Otomo who didn't prioritized making their character pretty,but giving them as much humanity as possible.But I would be rambling.(Even more than I am now). Anyway,I hope you're having fun with the draftsmen podcast!That episode on art parents is probably one my most favorite episode-I think I watched it about 10-20 times min since they released it-just because I love watching people talked about their favorite artist and giving their opinion on them.(Just hearing Marshall talked about his love for Durer or Stan's love for Fechin is damn fascinating!It make me sad that there aren't more episodes like that where they just sit down and talked what they like or don't like about an artist (kinda like that heinrich Kley sketchbook tour). Anyway, the exercise you mention sounds great!I hope you can one day finally find your style and voice :D
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Manuel
Paper, I don't know how you experience it, but I think it's very good that you have such a clear timeline about the artists that influenced you the most and influence you today, I think that is being well organized internally in terms of the learning process. Thanks for sharing, I have met Artists that I like a lot, for example Dean Cornwell, I have seen some of his paintings but without knowing who he was from, now I can explore him more and he has some incredible works, Andrew Wyeth and James Bama I did not know them either both very good. Adam Hughes I have known him for years, perhaps because he is more related to the world of comics, having cartoonist friends have mentioned him a lot and shown his work several times, I am not a big fan of north american comics but Hughes is undoubtedly what I like the most . Zun didn't know him either. Otomo and his disciples… well then, we could chat for a while about him, I'm a big fan of his creations, movies and manga. Anyway, thank you very much for sharing those inspirations, I'm going to stay investigating Dean Cornwell's art more.
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Nice to read you =) For me, I'd say my art parents are mainly Frank Frazetta and Gil Elvgren I keep the artworks that inspire me most in this pinterest boar: https://www.pinterest.com/dudtsdodom/art-goals/ that is an evolving board where I add what inspires me most / what I'd like to e able to do .. How about you?
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Manuel
Hey Dudts, thanks to you too, as Gil Elvgren is another artist I didn't know about. I think that Frazetta has inspired a lot of people, especially if you like the Fantasy genre, great great master. Thank you for sharing that Pinterest board, I think it has accumulated a good amount of material there, I'll be following it if you don't mind, and the truth is that it's a good idea, maybe I'll make a similar board too, for now I have one folder on the PC called "art that inspires me" and there are many artists mainly from Art Station. As for me, in these days that I have been reflecting on this parents of Art theme, I could say that at the beginning I was a great fan of Dragon Ball and Toriyama's drawings, when I decided that I wanted to make drawing my way of life, I internalized a lot more on the old Masters, Michelangelo, Raphael, Da Vinci, Rubens, Caravaggio, Rembrandt. But I was very young and wanting to learn on my own, I couldn't really take advantage of his works so I started studying the fundamentals from many sides. That's why I don't have much direction about what is really the style that I would like to do, but always practicing. Today, a little older (32 years old) and a little more organized, I really like Impressionism, to name a few, Renoir, Monet, Carl Frieseke, Paul Sawyer and I can't not name Sargent. Now it is difficult for me to understand myself (hahaha) in this styles selection because I really like the entertainment industry, cinema and videogames and I think that today there are artists who work for that industry creating masterpieces, I leave here some links in case you want to see their works: ArtStation - Artem Chebokha ArtStation - Enze Fu ArtStation - Greg Rutkowski ArtStation - Kan Liu(666K信譞) ArtStation - Maciej Kuciara ArtStation - Reza Afshar (edit: i just realize i dont know how to put a link here, i just copy paste the url but this site change to "artstation - artist name") Today I am trying to synthesize a style that is functional to the industry, that has those nuances of the most classic art... something like that, is still not very clear to me. Basicaly I love to draw and paint, but when I think that I have to find a way to live on this, That makes me stressed and confused. Glad to read advaices or opinion in the matter. And srry if my english is not so good.
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