Hi @jdobson004, nice work! I looked through both of your posts and I really like that you give the eyelids thickness and that you're clearly wrapping them around the spherical eyeball, giving the drawing a strong feeling of structure. - Try to use photos that have a clear separation of light and shadow. That will make it easier to follow Stan's step by step process, where step 2 is separating light and shadow. Hope this helps :)