Tiger Gayle-Walker
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hey @Liandro! Great expression! from the dog's fear (and size), composition & guy's angry rage (and size)! This is more of a suggestion, as it seems your going with a portrayal of power with the man's overbearing rage bending the table and chair, would you say, as the man's bending forward, the chair legs could bend all in unison to complement the C curve as you have with the dog's chair, shifting the weight from directly down from the pelvis to a teetering 'seesaw' like distribution of his body weight? PS. Massive thanks for your previous critiques!!
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hi guys! Would be great to get some feedback on this, not too sure I've manniquinized correctly (done with solid enough form)? Bonus if ya got any gesture tips! Thanks!
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Nathan Alonso
Here is my mannequin, I tried to be more dynamic.
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Great form in this piece. You've done a good job of exaggerating the pose too! One thing I'd be watching out for is the balance of the pose. Looks a bit too heavy on-screen right of the pose. Happy Drawing!
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hey Stan/Kristian, thanks for streaming! What would you guys define as a great critique? Plus the opposite, a really bad one. Thanks again!
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hey guys! Tried using force method on these poses, would like to know your thoughts on these! Thanks for any critiques & have a great day!😁 @Liandro @Diego Lucia
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Jon Neimeister
Great start @Tiger Gayle-Walker! Your lines have a nice fluidity to them, and you're doing a good job of keeping the individual curves nice and dynamic. I think the areas you could improve on are: 1- Proportion and structure. The arms are quite short and there's no indication of foreshortening, and the head and back leg aren't quite connecting to the body- did you have reference for this or was it from imagination? Drawing from ref is the fastest way to improve proportion. :) 2- While the individual rhythms are nice, they're not connecting with each other to create larger rhythms through the whole figure. I'd start with identifying and simplifying the centerline a bit: her primary action is that she's pressing forwards, so everything else should follow that curve in some way (red). After that, the limbs will feel a lot more gestural if you find ways to connect them to other body parts with a consistent rhythm (blue and green). Lastly sometimes you'll want to deviate from anatomy to get a better gesture: since her centerline is curved towards the right, having the arch of the back do the same will reinforce the gesture (orange), you can always add anatomy on top later. Keep up the good work! :D
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hey @Jon Neimeister, Thanks so much for the critique! Definitely agree with you on those points, looking back I’m seeing a lot more positional errors too haha. I wasn’t paying much attention to the flow as a whole or structure too either, so I’ll definitely keep those as reminders and pay more attention moving forward! (Attached is the reference and an edited version before reading your critique.)
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hi guys, hope you’re all well! Feedback welcome & appreciated! The aim for this 30min sketch was to get a fluid figure with a sense of weight. What do you think I should work on going forward? Thanks in advance! @Diego Lucia @Liandro
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James Mayr
@Liandro These Excercise was very fun to draw (especially the flunk fat) What are you thinking about?
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hey @James Mayr, Nice work! I like the motion on these! A little suggestion, try closing the space between the ribcage and pelvis. It should only be around one hand width apart max (Try putting your own hand between the side of your ribcage an pelvis). To avoid over complicating it, I'd suggest practicing this on the robo-bean until your gotten the spacing down. Keep at it! :]
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hey guys! A few ribcage studies, feedback on these would be massively appreciated! Mainly because I'm unsure how to correct a majority of these pieces. (In order of most recent first) @Diego Lucia @Liandro
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hi guys, some quick 30sec bean sketches! Any critiques would be a massive help! As I’m gonna start running back over bean n robo bean lessons :) (plus idk if this is a suitable way to draw them) @Liandro @Stan Prokopenko @Diego Lucia
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Maria J Venegas-Spadafora
Hi! I would say to study the manniquization a bit more to make sure the parts are properly placed in perspective. It seems that you are trying to consider the gesture of the whole body which is great. Maybe you could do more gesture drawing on the same pose until it feels like everything flows. Then, as a next step, if you are having trouble with the structure whole body I would try to first figure out how to place the bean or robobean. Then I would add the legs and arms as simple cylinders Also I would watch out for proportions. The feet on the third one look a bit small :)
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Thanks a lot for the feedback, and sorry for the late response... my bad :') Will definitely try this out on the next few!
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hi guys, any feedback on these Loomis heads would be massively appreciated! @Liandro
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Matthew Manghi
Hi there! I love the action in these and as someone who skates they definitely capture that movement well. One thing I would suggest is doing an extra step to clean things up a bit. You could try lightly erasing (a kneaded eraser rolled over the image works well) leaving you with an under drawing that is very light. From there you can pick out one strong line for your final image.
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hi Matthew, Thanks for the great suggestion! I'll definitely try out doing finalized versions this way. And thanks, I'm glad I captured this sense of movement, as I don't have much first hand experience with skating.
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
any feedback or general thoughts on these would be great thanks
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Ribcage construction - First two were from reference, third was made from a box shape. Tried to simplify it's shape and looking back at these I can see a few perspective issues. Critiques Welcome! especially on proportions thanks! @Liandro Roger
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suntory
I tried to capture the gesture first, but i feel like it ended up being bit stiff ^^; The last drawing was especially tricky to me. If you see any mistakes that I can improve, please let me know!
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hi Suntory! Can't see any mistakes on my end, great construction on these. If you don't mind, I'd like to know how you practiced to get such solid figures? Some improvements I can see are mainly in the leg/ weight distribution. The first image the pelvis could be twisted clockwise on the y axis so its facing the left a bit more, in the reference her right nipple, belly button and groan seem close to be aligning at a slight diagonal. The second may need the pelvis pushed to the right of the image as there seems to be a C curve from head/spine to right foot. In three the seat could be lowered and his right foot extended. In four the hip could be rotated anticlockwise so it matches with the upper bodies C curve/ whole bodies S curve. You've actually done a great job on the fifth image, all I can say is see if you can push the C curve because the ribcage looks like it can be leant a bit more to the right of the image, your bean has done this well though as the bean isn't as leant forward as the reference, I think the C curve isn't as dominant. Thanks for the great submission!
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omarg
Hello! The pose that I chose for this lesson had one of the lower legs foreshortened. I decided not to foreshorten that leg in the exaggerated pose. Should I have kept that bent leg like how it was in the original reference? Thank you!
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
My guess is that you should try to keep it as close to the reference as possible while pushing/exaggerating the pose as far as you can to get the most out of it. So yeah with this pose I'd say keep it in if you can, can't see any reason not to.
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omarg
Hi! Do the boxy forms have enough gesture? Thanks!
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Gesture looks good to me, if anything it's to have more consistent proportion.
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Liandro
@Tiger Gayle-Walker This is a tough one! The spine is bending towards the viewer, which will make the ribcage look foreshortened, and there is also a twist on the torso... wow. Try this: before attempting to fix this rather complex structure, go back to start and draw it as a simple and basic robo-bean - just boxes. If you can get the perspective of the boxes right on the robo-bean, you can then try constructing the more complex ribcage based on it. If you try it, let me know how it turns out! Hope this helps!
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Will deffo try this, Thanks again Liandro!
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Liandro
@Tiger Gayle-Walker, one very important thing for this exercise is to draw the muscle based on how it interacts with the bones underneath. So try this: instead of tracing the muscle based on the shape it shows on the surface, visualize the bones the muscle attaches to, then draw each portion by connecting their origin to their insertion, considering the muscle’s form and volume. If needed, draw-through (as if everything is transparent). I think it also helps if you lower the opacity of the photo a little bit more just to better view the tracing lines. Hope this helps!
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Definitely helped Liandro, thanks!
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