Tobias Degnebolig
Tobias Degnebolig
Denmark
im a beginner, who started 2021 february, and i started the figure drwaing course and the drawabox, which im still doing right now.
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Here's my submission for the proportions assignment :) I started with the Richter system I intend to study the other ones too, but I don't know if I'll make that into a submission or not. I hope I'm not breaking any rules with the nipple indications; I've been a little confused about it in the past and went without them, but, for this assignment that seemed a little counterproductive. Any and all criticism is appreciated.
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Tobias Degnebolig
i freaking love all of the things u are doing its so inspiring, may i ask what other courses or classes has u done before proko?
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Tobias Degnebolig
i have been drawing seriously for 7 mounth so not that long, after doodling for many years. I started 7 mounth ago with the Proko figure course which im stil on and in the end of the measurement asignment. i have been doing the drawabox on the side too, where im at the lesson 3. im a big fan of realistic art mostly Artists that i like for examples are - Jeremy geddes - Wlop - Eliza ivanova - Stephen Bauman - zhaoyang3665 as a few I was thiking of after being done with the proko figure to either go to the anatomy or portrait course, i has also been thinking of trying the barque book, or loomis or michael hampotons book on figure drawing. and would also love to hear peoples opinions on the bargues what would you guys receomend for me to go next thinking of the kind of art i like? either what of the courses i mentioned or if u got any other ideas of courses out there thank you in advance :D
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Tobias Degnebolig
would love some feedback on this i have now been doing this for 2 weeks, would you guys think im doing it okay to proceed to the shading or shall i stick with this a little while longer?
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Tobias Degnebolig
i have now been trying to figure out the gesture of this pose for a LONG time this is a couple of my tries for today i would love to see others attempt, to maybe kicjstart some ideas of this poses gesture or just some feedback anything can be helpfull
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Luigi Manese
Hi @Tobias Degnebolig, I think these are some great 5 minute studies. One proportional issue that seems consistent in most of your drawings is that the heads are feeling just a tad bit too small in proportion to the body, so try to keep that in mind and make them slightly bigger in your future studies to match. Additionally, I think it feels a bit difficult to critique some of your pieces because it looks like the level of finish for some of your mannequins vary. I've attached an image that shows one of Proko's simpler mannequins (the on one the right) and I feel that's probably a good level to do your studies. Try not to focus on adding features for now, and just make sure that the major features (simplified rib cage, hips, limbs, and head) all feel very solid and well constructed. If you want a point of reference from what you've uploaded, I think the second mannequin is a good level of finish to go to. I think lastly, just watch out for some of the proportions for the limbs in your studies as well. Proportion is definitely one of the harder concepts to fully learn (just doing the drawing lay in for your figures will be challenging at all levels) so don't be too hard on yourself if you're not getting it right away. If there's anything about my critique that you need me to clear up, feel free to let me know so that I can expand on some of these concepts!
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Tobias Degnebolig
your comments make alot of sense and is realy usefull to me, im a little curious about the gesture pictuce from proko there, since (what i have seen) there are alot of diffrent approaches to gesture, and this picture kinda show the gesture as a "stick figure" kinda, but it still reads the gesture realy good, and is very clear on what the pose is doing. so i was curious if u could come with any feedback to this gesture to structure drwaing i did (i do know that the gesture of leg is bad line quality tho xD )
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Pammy
I think that you need to focus on understanding form and contour lines. the girl's body looks a little flat to me, and before adding the details in i would make sure that all my shapes and forms and anatomy is in the right place. the male's body is smaller than that of the reference, so you have to mind that too. and with regards to the gesture, yours looks a little bit stiff. try taking a break, then coming back to it after then hopefully you'll see where you got it wrong. :D
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Tobias Degnebolig
thanks for the feedback, i am also right now mainly focusing on training my understadning form and gesture. im not really looking into anatomy yet
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Steve Lenze
Hey Tobias, Nice job working out the different concepts of figure drawing. I did a drawing to show you how you can approach gesture and structure. The way your thinking is correct, you just need to work on the structural shapes more. Also, think about how to use perspective to give those shapes a 3D look and feel. Keep up the good work :)
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Tobias Degnebolig
thank you for the insight. but a question to your drawing, arent we looking down at the pose ? so we would see the bottom box from the top plane and not the bottom plane? or am i watching this wrong?
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Tobias Degnebolig
i tried the assignment #1 in the Mannequinization part again after been following steve huston at NMA for 2 weeks also. side note im not done with the prokos figure course im only at the exagetaration part xD i tried one 5 min drawing where i focus on the the way steve huston break down the figure then i did 2, 1 min drawings below the right where i only focus on the gesture and the left where i focus on the robo bean and the gesture at the same time. im kinda curious waht people think about the way i break the pose down, and on the 3 difftrent ways i do it and for any feedback on the diffrent ways i did it would more then love some feedback
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Tobias Degnebolig
i am mainly focusing on gesture and structure right now, so i know that the cross hatching that i tried is sucking, but any feedback is welcome ;D
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a couple 5 min figure drwaings for tonight would love some feedback ;D
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Vincentius Sesarius
I think Polly has given a great answer. Tracing helps with breadth, and copying (draw from reference) helps with the depth. If you're just starting out, I mean, really just starting out, tracing are a great viable option. You can produce dozens of drawing by just tracing. But as you progress, even though tracing is great at first, you will notice that tracing won't give you much of help when you want to create something out of your imagination (without reference). This is kind of perilous position for artist, because our ultimate goal is to be able to create something out of our imagination. And the other thing is that, as you will grow as an artist, even when you're using a reference image, you will often find yourself not satisfied with the reference images you got. Whether it's the light, the pose, or the proportion, there's just something you don't like in it, that you want to change. If you have only been doing tracing, doing this is nearly impossible. But if you've done your homework studying things properly, changing aspects in reference image that you don't like is an easy job.
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Tobias Degnebolig
im not realy thinking of "only be tracing" my thoughts mainly comes from starting NMA steve hustons figure drawing course and in his lectures he takes pictures of masters and deconstruct them by tracing the construction over the picture and understanding it. so i was thinking if this was a good idea to do sometimes. i do mainly follow this course and prokos figure course and do the stuff with figure drawing poses from 1-2-5-10 min so i was never thinking that i would be JUST tracing stuff, becasue my plans is to be able someday to draw from imagination too, i was just thinking of doing it sometimes with some figures that i have hard time with, to help my self understand the construction of the pose better i hope what im saying makes sense xD
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Tobias Degnebolig
i have been thinking for some time of difftrent ways of learning and i tried for a mounth ago to take a picture of a figure, then traced the structure of it and then after i redrawed the structure myself without tracing. and this gave me a realy good result of how the drawing looked and then today i saw this video today of someone talking about this same idea of learning and i became curious about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dERSl-bQNr8 but here comes my question about it, is this a good way to learn, if i do this for a long time will my brain learn from this less then if i just try to draw the structure out from just observing the refrence? or will it learn just as much? or more?
Tobias Degnebolig
following your 50/50 rule do you recomend that i actively try and focus on the structure (build the drawing up form structure), or shall i just try and draw freely and let it slowly come natural to me? its kinda hard to think that its gonna come naturaly to one at some point xD
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Alexander Andreasson
I know that they are pretty flawed and they miss the energy proko is showing, Feedback on why would be greatly appreciated!
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Tobias Degnebolig
hey mate i would maybe focus more on the gesture of the pose then the structure of the person. as an example i did one in a 30 sec gesture pose which is not perfect but i think i got the main idea of the gesture in it i tried with the first pose in the upper left corner to really exagarate the rhythm from the neck to the foot with an s shape and then i build from that i hope this can be usefull :D
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Tristan Elwell
READ it, don't just skim and look at the pictures. This isn't true for all drawing books, but Mike is good writer, and his text is just as important as the images.
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Tobias Degnebolig
i am also reading them, i was just curious about on how to approach practicing them.
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Tobias Degnebolig
so i just got two art books, but im not quite sure what the best way is to tackle them, since they dont got any "assignments" in them. so i would love to hear from other people how they tackle this problem. i thought that maybe it would be a good idea to the following for the FORCE figure drwaing book 1. try and copy some of his gesture drawing 2. try and analyse why he does as he does 3. then try and do the same thing for a gesture drwaing session 4. and then do step 1- 3 one more time with the same drawings 5. go to next page and repeat 1- 4 do you guys and girls think this is a good way of practice? a bad way? or do you have some others ideas i also could try? thank you in advance
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Tobias Degnebolig
im loving this thread of AMZING drawings
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Tobias Degnebolig
im not a girl but im up for a date now.. thx sinix
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Tobias Degnebolig
is there any advantages to learning the reily method for figure drwaing compared to learning the FORCE method (and vice versa)? ... and if u wanna learn the Reilly method for figure drwaing, what courses or book would u recomend?
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Tobias Degnebolig
what is the pro and cons to be painting and drawing on a horizotal or vertical or having the page in a 45 degree angle?
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