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Marco Sordi
2022/4/14. Good morning everybody. Here’s my 30 minutes warming up exercise. I made the lateral plane of the torso too narrow. Thanks.
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cathy hayes
The only thing I see is what you have already picked up on yourself. I think this is really good. If I would suggest anything, and this is purely an aesthetic thing so you may disagree, but I would make the light coming from the left side softer. I feel like that would help with making it look more like 3D.
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Sundjiv
Hello everyone, does anyone has an idea on how are the radius and ulna on his arms. I have some difficulty to visualize them... Thanks a lot
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cathy hayes
Try putting down where the scapula and humerus are. You know the ulna connects with the humerus and you know the radius connects with the wrist. Also, the forearms are pronated so you know the radius has rotated to cross the ulna. You can see the Afro ion and the epicondyles so crack open an anatomy book with a similar pose or you could use the Skelly app and reproduce the pose to understand it. That’s how I would attack the problem, anyways
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onigi *pronunce [on-ie-gee]*
I've been doing Gesture exercises for around 50 days and I feel my drawing for both this course and my hobby is surprisingly improved, I really want to tell thanks to Proko and the people in this community. Still, I can't feel what gesture is and my lines look dirty although I always try to make them clear and stable as ones did in examples and the critiques video, Probably I use a pencil the wrong way, or just because of bad controlling of my hands? Any critiques are welcomed!
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cathy hayes
I’m not sure because I enlarged to look. I think you are doing pretty well in terms of capturing the gesture. The pencil lines look like you are drawing on a rough surface- do you have lots of paper under the one you are drawing on? I am not sure that’s just what comes to mind. The messy look is partially due to repeated lines I think. Maybe try ghosting the line before you actually touch the pencil to paper? Or make your initial line really light so you can judge any issues then go in to correct?
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Grundini
I gave this a go and found the process quite interesting. I wonder how useful it is if I wanted to make a finished drawing of the last pose. At least as long as I don't work digitally I'll have to copy it from the transparent paper to drawing paper. Though I guess it's good for finding believable exaggerated poses nonetheless.
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cathy hayes
I like the third drawing the best, I think because it seems the most dynamic. When I compare it to the original pose it seems a bit exaggerated which proko often recommends. I think your drawing is more dynamic than the actual pose. Just a thought
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Matthew Nicholas Sandoval
Here's a couple of my 2 min sketches. The biggest problem I am facing is that I am having a hard time locating the main action line within the model. Especially when facing the back.
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cathy hayes
I think you are right in the money about the action line. I struggle with this as well, especially with poses like these where it is not really obvious. The action line is missing from your drawing as well. I tried not putting pencil to paper until I knew where the action line was and I drew that first. You could try that. Good luck
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Sandra Süsser
I took my time with this and did a combination of exercises: firstly, I captured the gesture on my own, than I tried to improve on it by studying the one from Proko. Secondly, I tried to get the Robo Bean / main structure of the torso (again first from testing, than correcting it by tracing). And thirdly I did a muscle tracing as far as I knew the muscles by using the 3d models and lectures from the anatomy course and learning one new muscle segment each day. Did this for several days / weeks in a row and it really helped me improve my understanding a great Deal. These are my favourites. Oh and today I also did an only-gesture session.
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cathy hayes
These look really good. I am super impressed.
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Laura Estrada
Hey there, artists! I worked on some mannequins this week and I thought I'd share! For clarity, #1 is from way back when I thought this exercise was gonna be about gesture. Then on #2 you can see things started to change, and then it was just mannequin (attempts) from #3 onwards. My mannequins are pretty simple for now, but at least I've managed to convey a real sense of movement and depth, or so I believe. :D What do you think? If you could offer some critiques or guidelines for improvement, I'd be very helpful!
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cathy hayes
These are really good. From 3 on fantastic, # 1 is more like a contour and 2 is better but the rest are great.
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@fooze
Hey everyone. here are my robo beans attempt. I think my biggest weakness is that im too scared to exaggerate my drawings and im very weak when it comes to the twist. (Also if you spot any weaknesses i may have that i didn't mention please mention them in your reply! thanks) Feedback/Tips will be greatly appreciated! :)
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cathy hayes
Watch the shadows on your photos of your drawings. Try putting them by a window during the day time where you are getting indirect light, not direct sunshine on your drawing as this will bleach out your drawing. I find if I don’t get between the window and the sketchbook, i don’t have to deal with the shadows. When I use an overhead light in the evening I have a hard time getting a half decent picture without all the shadows messing things up.
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Tony Vu
I'm not really sure If I'm stretching or compressing the muscles correctly relative to how active they are. I think I got the overall forms right. I feel a little more confident now so I plan to try some from imagination.
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cathy hayes
There isn’t a lot of muscle bulk to help identify but I gave it a go on the first one. I find the muscles you are putting in around the scapula confusing, not sure what they are supposed to be. I always find it helpful to crack open an anatomy book or 2 to try to figure out what is what. This is a really helpful one
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Callum Kendrick
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cathy hayes
For what it’s worth- to me number 2 looks like there isn’t enough leaning back of the rib cage, it looks too straight up and down. Number 3 is a bit difficult to read but I think the beveled edges coming in to the spine are too wide and sore,thing is off re the alignment of the rib cage-mnotmsure how.
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Taylor Bankson
OK. I have had a very hard time with gesture. My gut feeling is these are better than my last post. I know they are not finished and I would appreciate some pointers. This exercise has really done a number on my self esteem and desire to draw. I'd like to move on to something else and come back to this later, if I'm reasonably ready to do so.
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cathy hayes
I get it. I would suggest practise some gestures just to warm up, no pressure. Then move on to what you want to,try next because it’s so important to keep,drawing. The gestures will improve- don’t give up. Do 5-10 to start your drawing session and later go over them and see if there is a common problem you can work on.
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TK
Hi, here's my assignment for this lesson. I drew them on my own then compared it to what Marshall did. I also took the liberty of drawing some of these from different angles. Feel free to let me know if you see anything that should be corrected. Thanks and good drawing.
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cathy hayes
These look really great but my gut is saying sometimes the ball of the humerus is too big for the size of the joint
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@yeetzi
hiii! starting this course along with the anatomy course :] it's been a while since I've done figure drawing so I hope to learn more! did a lot of 30 sec and 2 min gestures. I think I am struggling with the 30 sec ones because I didn't simplify enough. As for the 2 min gestures, I find myself feeling that I have a lot of time especially after doing the 30 sec gestures, but it leads me to hyper-fix into the specific parts instead of the gesture. I also have a habit of scratchy lines that I hope to drop I also have a problem of making the head too small or legs too long but I don't really know if that's important in gesture right now. Any feedback or tips for the 30sec/2min gestures would be much appreciated!
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cathy hayes
Try to lose the scratchy lines- it’s a bad habit. I have it too. The 2 minute gestures I think are quite good. Some of your 30 second ones are good too. The ones I like the most are the ones that have that long line showing the flow of the gesture
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@carolinafreitas
==QUESTION==: should I go back to shorter poses and gesture or does it look like going to the robobean is the way to go? --- I have done a few poses after watching the landmarks video. All and all i was trying to maintain a gesture feeling with more observation and structure of the landmarks. These are 2min to 5min poses. I started with beans and pinned some of the landmarks (shoulders, "tie" shaped thing, 10th rib, hips bones, triangle shape on the back, clavicles, omoplate/scapula...) Their color backgrouds are because each color is a different day. I am learning to draw digitally with an old intuos pro, also different time for poses, so the line quality varies a lot. This is a big file (4k) with small things, so clicking on "open original" is better to see the lines. images from line-of-action site
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cathy hayes
If I were you, I would not be trying to learn how to do digital art while you are working on learning figure drawing. It just makes things too complicated. Stick to media you are familiar with, like pencil and paper when you are trying to advance your figure drawing skills. It will help you with getting a more flowy line, and I think you will advance your skills faster. And I agree, stick to gestures and try to find the action line going through the body, which will help your gesture. Hope that helps.
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Sarvesh Gupta
Here's my assignment. I tried to study some anatomy before with some books and diagrams but I hope to learn more effectively with this course. Excited for the upcoming lessons!
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cathy hayes
Wow, these are pretty darn good
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Madelyn Kuipers
Assignment 03 - Draw Models This one definitely had me sitting there problem solving for a while with some things, trying to visualise the skeletal structure underneath. Great way to help you feel and be aware of the form of the body too. Critiques and feedback welcome and appreciated as always!
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cathy hayes
I think these are quite good except there is too much space between the rib cage and the pelvis, other than that- great work.
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Taylor Bankson
Hey y'all. Struggling significantly with gestures. These were 45 second gestures from this movement: https://www.bodiesinmotion.photo/motions/1813/fullscreen?index=0 Some I ran out of time, one I took a second stab at I would deeply appreciate some guidance on what I'm not seeing or doing. It feels like as soon as I start drawing with the timer, I have no idea what I'm doing again
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cathy hayes
For me, I did better when I didn’t time it initially because it made me anxious and messy. I think you might be happier with the outcome if you can find one long action line in the pose. I also find it helpful to do a line to indicate the angle of the shoulders and the hips. And also try to show the stretch and the pinch in the torso more clearly. These are just ideas that occurred to me when I looked at your work.
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Torin Scholes
Hello, I did some 60 second gestures today. I found it difficult to capture the entire figure in 60 seconds. Would love any feedback.
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cathy hayes
I really like some of these. Even some of the unfinished ones are very expressive and readable. You say 60 seconds for the whole body is difficult. I had the same issue. I can tell you what helped me. I gave myself 2 minutes at first, until my speed improved. The timer was making me feel pressured. I spent the first 20 seconds looking at the pose and figuring out where the longest line of action was, and I started with that. It helped me get an expressive gesture and it helped me figure out what I was going to do before my pencil hit the paper. It may help you to try these strategies. Good luck!
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Bartosz Rudy
Hello there. Some examples from the first exercise I've done regarding structure basics. Feedback is welcomed and appreciated, it's important to know if you practice well.
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cathy hayes
These look very good to me
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William Horton
I've started to do some models on my own and I hope to hear back on how I did. I Think I have a better grasp of the forms than I did a week ago but I also feel like my mannequins are missing some important step in the drawing process. Thank you for reading. :)
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cathy hayes
These are pretty good! If I was going to suggest anything, it would be 1. Try adding some cross contours, might give you more of a 3D look and 2. Your perspective seems off on one of the legs of the last pose. Just a couple of things that struck me when I looked at your drawings.
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