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Martin
Really like the line quality and energy of your gesture drawings! I guess my only critique is that the bean drawings are very small and don't seem to have that energy to them.
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Asher
Hi Proko, do you ever plan on covering facial expressions?
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Martin
There's a book, "anatomy of facial expression" by Uldis Zarins
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Martin
Been trying to develop structural shading..
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Wibble Wobbles
Can anyone provide some advice on the drawing the hips? I find that part of the body to be very difficult to draw.
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Martin
Check out the 'bean' videos on the figure drawing course. It breaks down drawing the motion of the torso in a very simple way.
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James Mayr
As  @Liandro Roger @Martin Debenham suggested, I focused first on the gesture and overall shape of the form, but always keep the 3D space in mind. I tried to imagine how the gesture line / outlining are moving through the space. I will definitely try do develop that, because I found out hat imagine the objects in 3D space while drawing the projection of that object on paper is one of the most joyful experience while I'm drawing. I explored a little bit and that was my conclusion so far: If i using line that I can wrap around a form then the 3D Mindset works very well, but if I draw a silhouette of a pose with not very much depth information, I found It much harder to stay in the 3D space mindset. Because of that I was looking other lines than just the shape of the figure (e.g. like a curve around the back or but) to get the overall shape of the figure. I would be interesting what are your experience in the "sketch stage"? Are you sharing the same things? what are you doing different and why?
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Martin
Hi James, the only thing that Id say is basically to agree with you:, regardless of what exercises you are doing for Proko, really follow up on the 3d visualisation thing in a creative way and bring as much joyful experience and inspiration into your art practise as possible. It almost sounds like you are a sculptor who hasn't quite discovered that that is what he is......or maybe not, I don't know..
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James Mayr
It was a challening but IMHO valuable lessions. I tried first at my own before I watch the solution videos. This time I tried to map out the overall shape first (like @Martin Debenham pointed out)to get the proportion of the 3 masses. I know the loomis method, but I figured out that it's hard to apply if the front face is not visible. (I'm still not happy with the photo quality. This time I used overcast daylight to take the photos.)
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Martin
To my eyes, these have a more cohesive, fluid quality than your previous assignment, I think they hang together better as drawings, so, well done! Its not easy to make improvements to ones drawing technique. Whatever it is you're doing differently - keep going with it, keep developing it - find a technique that works for you
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@suntory
I tried to capture the gesture first, but i feel like it ended up being bit stiff ^^; The last drawing was especially tricky to me. If you see any mistakes that I can improve, please let me know!
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Martin
I love how clearly you can see the construction at the same time as the figure being so well defined. Really skillfully done. I think most of your problems on the last one come from the shoulders being too flat and also too much over the centre of gravity. They lean out to the side and down more in the photo. I think if you do that, then the twist that you have illustrated in your little bean drawing will naturally arise.
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Martin
Here are my bean drawings. Its a neat technique, i can see how it makes drawing figures a lot simpler. Iine quality is the one thing that's bugging me about them. They look a bit neat and inexpressive. Any feedback welcome
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Eddy Edgar
I'm a beginner at anatomy and didn't even come close to getting this right. Stan, do you recommend that I keep moving through the material or stop and correct each tracing, to get them somewhere in the ballpark of your examples?
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Martin
Maybe leave what you've done, they are examples of "how you were when you started out", then keep practicing the tracing, and soon, I can pretty much guarantee, you will see an improvement. I find frustration is usually part of any process of improvement. Good luck!
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Martin
Hi all, I've decided I'm going to go ahead and document my coursework here and see what comes of that. I've found gesture fascinating to explore. I've never come across it as a neat concept before, so have never focused on it in this way. I found that sketching in the gesture with the flat of a crayon, then adding contour with the point was a method which worked for me. I make wire sculptures, and have hit a bit of a wall when it comes to making figures in motion (not kinetic, like dancing figures etc), which is why I enrolled on these courses. So, I've sometimes been trying to think in 3D and bring out spiraling lines in my gesture drawings, so I can develop them into wire sketches. Any feedback is welcome. Thanks
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